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To: Amy J who wrote (188033)	5/7/2004 1:35:53 AM
From: tejek	Respond to of 1585782

RE "But what does happen is that Americans thing he is this highly moral, upstanding individual. They fall for it every time. That's why the sucker scares me." --------- Dishonestly crosses the line. His ratings are going down. People are not falling for it. Given all that he's done in the past year, his ratings should be in the cellar. He is using the US Treasury as his own personal check book. Its mind boggling that people are not calling for his impeachment. What the soldiers did was wrong, but you know what? When a group of Israeli soldiers did about a year ago, at least the head of the military went on TV and was honest enough to say, "it is wrong. War is war - these things can happen. But it's not right." By comparison, he didn't say what Rumbsfield said a year ago, "our soldiers would never do anything like that." He didn't deny it, he said he would investigate it and prosecute those involved. There is little honesty in this administration.....that's very clear. But to be dishonest, is to be a liar: Bush has lied because Bush's actions do not match his words. I can sort of understand confusion on WMD. But there is absolutely nothing ambiguous about letting Private London go free when the military decided she was guilty. Bush is a liar, if she goes free. I agree.......I hope people get it this time. The next polls should give us a good picture. ted

To: Amy J who wrote (188033)	5/7/2004 1:42:03 AM
From: tejek	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1585782

<font color=brown>Amy, This by no means excuses what our troops did but after listening for a year about how much better the Brits were with the Iraqis.......how they were more benevolent and could relate better, the events below suggest that they had little to brag about. And as for us prosecuting 6 American soldiers.......in one pic, I saw at least ten people participating in whatever kind of sex party the pervs were having with the Iraqis. They better expand their scope and do it fast. I keep believe they let London off.......she was like a key figure. ted<font color=black> ************************************************* British Troops Face New Iraq Prisoner Abuse Claims Thu May 6, 2004 08:45 PM ET By Astrid Zweynert LONDON (Reuters) - Britain's Ministry of Defense said it was investigating fresh charges of mistreatment of prisoners in Iraq after a newspaper on Friday published the testimony of a British soldier who said he had witnessed severe beatings. The Daily Mirror newspaper said the man had given military police full details of the attacks, including names and ranks of the soldiers involved in the beatings. The soldier, a trooper with the same regiment already at the center of an investigation into abuse of Iraqi prisoners, said the violence was led by three ringleaders. "I witnessed four beatings when people where punched and kicked," the soldier told the Mirror. "They'd be on their knees, and when they dropped their hands they'd be kicked until they raised them again." On one occasion, a corporal went up to a prisoner who had a sandbag over his face and poked his fingers into the man's eyeballs until he was screaming in pain, the soldier said. The Ministry of Defense said an investigation was under way. "We can confirm that an individual who's come forward to the Daily Mirror with allegations has spoken to Royal Military Police this evening," a ministry spokesman said on Thursday. He said several investigations into charges of abuse were already under way and it was not clear if the new allegations referred to incidents that were already being probed. The Mirror, which opposed the war in Iraq, published pictures last week apparently showing British soldiers urinating on a hooded prisoner and beating him with a rifle butt. The pictures appeared soon after images emerged in the United States of U.S. soldiers at Baghdad's Abu Ghraib jail humiliating naked prisoners, causing outrage in the Muslim world and beyond. The Mirror's rival British newspapers have suggested the photographs the paper published of British troops might be fake, unlike the American pictures. The government says it is unsure of the authenticity of the Mirror's pictures but is investigating the allegations. "The abuse of prisoners and torture of prisoners, the degrading treatment of people in the custody of the coalition forces is completely and totally unacceptable and inexcusable," Prime Minister Tony Blair told reporters on Thursday. reuters.com