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Politics : Don't Blame Me, I Voted For Kerry -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: American Spirit who wrote (21028)5/6/2004 10:08:46 PM
From: lorneRead Replies (1) | Respond to of 81568
 
as. you said...." The rightwing leadership is all draft-dodgers or were simply never in combat. That's true. Not a single major rightwing leader in this country has ever served in combat."....

How about Colin Powell?



To: American Spirit who wrote (21028)5/6/2004 10:09:51 PM
From: Karen LawrenceRead Replies (1) | Respond to of 81568
 
Rumsfeld - who looks like a dead Nazi officer with his gray face and shriveled lips - served. As to the rest....cheney - no; ashcroft - no; rove - no; wolfowitz - no; Bush - when it was convenient; Tom Delay - no here's what he said in 1999, quite the flip/flopper:

"These are the same chicken hawks who vote against defense all the time," House majority whip (and de facto speaker) Tom "the Hammer" DeLay said last week about the Democrats who support air strikes in Yugoslavia. "Not only is their president getting us in a mess, but he's undermining our military." DeLay's fervid rhetoric carried the day; even though his protégé, House Speaker Dennis Hastert, voted to support the air strikes, the House vote ended in a 213-213 tie, which of course meant that it had withheld support for the air strikes.

What interests Chatterbox here is DeLay's appropriation of the term "chicken hawk." DeLay was trying to make it a derisive term for those who support war but oppose large increases in military spending. But, as commonly used, the term actually is intended as an insult to those who dodged the Vietnam draft but favor huge increases in military spending. Along with the term "war wimp," it neatly summarized the hypocrisy of many baby-boomer conservatives who cheered the Pentagon buildup of the 1980s. (In the definitive piece about this, a 1985 Wall Street Journal story by Jane Mayer, the ever-pragmatic Newt Gingrich said: "Part of the question I had to ask myself was what difference I would have made." The other vicarious warmongers dinged in the piece were Richard Burt, George Will, and Richard Perle.)
slate.msn.com



To: American Spirit who wrote (21028)5/6/2004 10:26:22 PM
From: Rainy_Day_WomanRead Replies (1) | Respond to of 81568
 
off the top of my head

Dwight Eisenhower

the elder George Bush, a Navy pilot shot down during World War II

Bob Dole was a World War II combat hero

Colin Powell