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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (42632)	5/7/2004 12:44:31 AM
From: Ilaine	Respond to of 793776

I've been slogging the good slog on Free Republic. Russ Limbaugh apparently has been saying that Abu Ghraib was nothing more serious than a frat hazing, just boys blowing off steam, and apparently Sean Hannity tried to go that route, as well. Rush was outraged that Bush apologized, and says that this cost him the election. Well, you already know that I think that Rush Limbaugh is a big fat idiot (and so is Al Franken.) I don't know what percentage of people on Free Republic either just lurk, or say what they have to say and then stop, but I'd gauge the commentary as 50-50 outrage at Abu Ghraib, and outrage that we should be called to task after Fallujah and 9/11. You know where I stand. Allahpundit, whom I like a lot, seemed to be on my side on Wednesday, he posted critiques from Hitchens and others that expressed outrage about Abu Ghraib, but this evening he went on a long rant about how Bush should not have apologized. My take for the night -- Bush apologized, not as a person, but as the holder of the Office of the President. And he spoke for our military when he said that he was sorry that some bad apples did things they should not have done, they did not reflect what the rest of us are all about. I hope and pray that these heinous acts have not endangered our brave men and women, but I fear that they have.

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (42632)	5/7/2004 12:58:12 AM
From: LindyBill	Respond to of 793776

The blogs are really pounding Friedman's column. Donald Sensing - Fisking Friedman In response to the breathless, panicky piece by Thomas Friedman in today's NYT, Allah is in the House posted a devastating, thorough response. A short excerpt of an RTWT post: It's not Friedman's Arab toadying that's so galling, though. Anyone who's read him over the past few years has long since gotten used to that. What's galling is his suggestion that a sufficiently humiliating apology for what happened at Abu Ghraib might actually have an effect on world opinion--as though anti-Americanism were something keyed to specific events rather than to broad differences in ideology. Friedman would have us believe there are teeming multitudes out there who want to like us, are trying to like us, but just can't get a leg over because we keep doing awful things to break their hearts. Luckily, they're so open-minded and forgiving that we might be able to win them back if we put the Friedman plan into action ... It is already time for the US government (not just the executive branch) to move on to other, far more pressing business. The criminal probes and inspector-general investigations must continue, but the front-page, top-of-the-hour billing the story keeps getting is now harming rather than helping our efforts. And so is the vicious speech coming from Capitol Hill.