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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (188056)	5/7/2004 7:43:15 AM
From: Road Walker	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1573909

Ten, re: But I didn't want to get carried away and believe the conspiracy theories, that the military just wanted to cover this up and let the guilty go free. You can bet the farm that if those pictures hadn't see the light of day that the military would never have gone public with sexual abuse of Iraqi prisoners. re: Apparently you do, but what good will that do? It will discourage that type of behavior in the future, it will make seniors more aware that they are responsible for the actions of their juniors, it will make the ME and the world aware that that the US does not condone torture. I know you just want it to go away because it reflects badly on the administration. John

To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (188056)	5/13/2004 6:01:18 AM
From: Amy J	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1573909

Tenchusatsu, RE: "There is no side. The confrontational tone of your post suggests that you don't really believe that." My tone conveyed disappointment in you. I have higher expectations of you. To spur you into realizing the abuse is so incredibly wrong, that it deserves your acknowledgement of such, which you finally did. RE: "I can't be doing your dirty work" It's inappropriate to make an assumption of badwill, which is what your statement implies. I've been a poster long enough for you to know my general intentions are good, that I post from my heart. I was very concerned you weren't upset by the abuse because (initially) you never said you were, you only talked politics, as if you felt the abuse was a non-issue. As if you weren't hurt to see people being so horribly hurt. RE: "I found nothing" Message 20111933 RE: "I thought it was rather obvious that what she did was wrong." But you only stated political commentary - as if politics were more important than people dragged on a leash. You made no expression of emotional disappointment in how it was handled, when I made that post. But you have since expressed disappointment, which I'm glad you did, because it restores my confidence in you as a person. I continue to have higher expectations of you than the average person. RE: "and believe the conspiracy theories, that the military just wanted to cover this up and let the guilty go free. Apparently you do" That's an unfair statement. As you realize, there's a lack of clarity on this situation. Next time, please don't accuse me of badwill (which you've done three times so far, on other matters where my heart was genuinely engaged) by assuming my desire for clarity on a situation doesn't come from the heart. My posts come from my heart. I think you could learn to express things from the heart sometimes too, and stop assuming the world around you is only sinisterly political. There are many people who aren't - Senator McCain for one, and whomever the lady Senator was that asked the tough questions during the commission (I couldn't even tell which party she was from, because she left politics out, and instead focused on investigating by asking good hard questions). I simply pointed out my disappointment she was reprimanded with a reassignment. Something I felt you should have done too, with me, rather than attacking me. Fortunately, the govt has increased their focus on this matter, to clean it up. On a final note, I know you like Bush, and when your guy makes mistakes, that's not the time to leave him. It's the time to dig your heels in, stay, and criticize until corrective action is taken. Criticism can be helpful. Something to think about. Regards, Amy J