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To: marginmike who wrote (5848)5/7/2004 7:09:01 PM
From: NOW  Respond to of 116555
 
i concur. all Tomasso needs to ask is: what are the likley repercussions of these photos being published around the world for the US: good?



To: marginmike who wrote (5848)5/8/2004 8:06:05 AM
From: Haim R. Branisteanu  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 116555
 
Would agree but add some comments

I find it abhorrent that people were smiling when photographed, and for that there is no excuse whatsoever, it prove complete disregard to anything human even if those detainees commited severe crimes.

On the other hand we do not know lots of other facts including if this conduct was stopped. It is clear to me that for stupidity a lot of goodwill was lost and more hatred was implanted toward the US.

My big question is why were those photographs not confiscated and why they were released to the media after all it hurt US security

... and to put it in perspective with Vietnam



To: marginmike who wrote (5848)5/9/2004 4:17:29 AM
From: Haim R. Branisteanu  Respond to of 116555
 
Prisoner Abuse in the U.S. Is Commonplace, N.Y. Times Says
May 8 (Bloomberg) -- Prisoners in the U.S. routinely suffer physical and sexual mistreatment similar to the abuse inflicted on Iraqi prisoners by U.S. soldiers, the New York Times said, citing corrections officials, inmates and human rights advocates.

U.S. inmates in Pennsylvania and some other states are stripped in view of other prisoners before being transferred to another prison or unit, the paper said. Male prisoners at the Maricopa County jail in Phoenix are forced to wear women's underwear as a form of humiliation, the paper said.

Trent Duffy, a spokesman for President George W. Bush's administration, said mistreatment in U.S. prisons isn't comparable to that at Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison. Photographs that appeared on television last week showed U.S. soldiers posing next to a naked pile of Iraqi prisoners.

In the past 25 years, more than 40 percent of state prison systems were under some form of court order for brutality, overcrowding, or inadequate food or medical care, the paper said, citing Marc Mauer, assistant director of the Sentencing Project, a Washington-based advocacy and research group.

(New York Times 5-8 A11)

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