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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Gordon A. Langston who wrote (573037)	5/7/2004 8:09:58 PM
From: microhoogle!	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

War is clearly a failure of diplomacy and ideas. Force is a tool in the arsenal of administration that needs to be used wisely. Clearly it was not used well by Clinton administration. And clearly it was ABUSED by current administration (and LBJs in the past). If anyone has made an effective, compelling case for war - it has been Bush Sr. Every day that passes by - the stock of junior keeps going down and the Senior keeps going up.

To: Gordon A. Langston who wrote (573037)	5/7/2004 8:19:37 PM
From: sea_biscuit	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

Excerpted from an article : Americans seemed to learn nothing from the French experience. De Gaulle warned Kennedy that Vietnam would be a graveyard for American soldiers. But in the inflationary boom of the first 'Guns and Butter' administration - that of Lyndon B. Johnson - Americans must have thought they could do what the French couldn't. They spent far more money, and lost far more men, but Giap (General Giap, Commander of the Vietminh forces) beat them... just as he had the French. While France and America enjoyed their defeats, Vietnam suffered its own dreary independence like a war wound. ... ... P.S. General Giap is still alive. The old man, 91, interviewed by the Figaro, was asked what he thought of America's situation in Iraq: "When you try to impose your will on a foreign nation you will be defeated. Every nation that struggles for independence will win." "What we've done," continued the old man, dreaming, "was to fight for the right of each man to live and develop as he chooses... and the right of each people to enjoy national sovereignty."