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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (42848)	5/8/2004 2:28:51 AM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793731

It's an interesting argument, but in point of fact there were several shifts of guards who managed to get through the day without forcing the prisoners to engage in fetishistic sex acts. A handful of people out of hundreds did this, and hundreds did not. Will you still be arguing for them when the video comes out? Drudge says they show rape and sodomy of young boys, which I doubt -- where did they get young boys? But who knows? Better to just bide your time, your defense is not essential or needed at this point in time and may prove to be woefully misguided.

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (42848)	5/8/2004 7:26:23 AM
From: Maurice Winn	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793731

Nadine, I read that something like half the prisoners were captured due to being in the wrong place at the wrong time, in "sweeps". Something like half have been released, I think it was. So, there were certainly lots of people who were not really major league terrorists, with hot information, which was needed to prevent further carnage. I do admit that I don't have much knowledge of interrogating people to get information from them, but "break the spirit of fanatical jihadis" seems like a cliche good for movies, but not necessarily transferrable to real life for random captives who might or might not have any useful information. Some, or one, of the photographed prisoners seem to have needed some punishment as they were reported to have beaten up other prisoners, who were accused of talking to the interrogators. But stacking them up naked doesn't seem like a good idea. Some tit for tat of those belligerent prisoners was perhaps in order to show them that they couldn't just attack other people with impunity [if that's actually what happened]. It didn't look to me as though the captors were trying to break the spirit of fanatical jihadis in order to prevent the next suicide bomber. I don't think that had anything to do with it. Were their spirits "broken"? I don't think so. Mqurice