To: Johannes Pilch who wrote (573168 ) 5/9/2004 3:33:42 PM From: Kevin Rose Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670 You nauseate me with your indescribable ignorance. No honest person reading these exchanges can legitimately come away with the belief that this is all I am saying. The point is not merely that they are not justified by Christianity, which is true, since other Christian forces significantly stood against them all (indeed even during Urban's assault there were enemies of the this pope who wished to have nothing to do with any of it and who were excommunicated and attacked for it), but the point also is that in none of it was there Christian justifications for murdering unattached innocent people. We find islamic justification for murder all the time. Just recently we found it and there is no islamic redefining outcry against it. Wow. I really did not think you were THAT intellectually dishonest. You think that the difference is that there were significant Christian forces who opposed the Pope's bloody jihad? And you think there is not significant Muslim opinion against bin Laden and terrorism? THAT'S your point?! Ludicrous. This is pointless. You are not only dishonest, you arer delusional. You are typical of the neocons, using complete denial of both current and historical reality when it doesn't fit your eye. You must school with the Bushies who deny reality everyday. Iraqis will throw flowers at us. Instead, they throw bombs. We can significantly reduce our troop levels in Iraq after the handover. Instead, we're desperately searching for money and troops. Only the 'deadender' Sunnis are against us. Instead, we've united the Sunnis and Shiites like never before. Go ahead and deny reality. Maybe the laws of physics WILL change if you just wish hard enough, and Rush Hannity et al propaganize long enough. The rest of us, the ones who face up to reality and don't deny it, will throw your leaders out on their asses and get this country back on track.