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To: Elroy Jetson who wrote (49809)5/11/2004 6:58:23 PM
From: Taikun  Respond to of 74559
 
Not completely true. The argument is only true for the weaker pension funds that are mismanaged or where corporations have dipped in (with gov'ts blessing) to cover operating expenses. Think US Airways and Lucent as the worst, and as the main beneficiaries of PBGC.

Here are a few pension funds that have had strong returns from alternative investments (buyouts, venture capital, real estate, mezzanine funds, timber, oil and gas, hedge funds).

University of California Regents (ie UCLA, UC Davis, UC Santa Barbara...all the UCs), Stanford Investment Management Company, Harvard Investment Management Company, Yale, Princeton, CALPERS, CALSTERS, Hewlett Packard, Virginia Retirement System. The list of the best performing pension funds is in the hundreds. Some of these, like Stanford IMC for example (for the Stanford professors) have not required any payment from members (ie the professors, university staff) in 10-12(!) yrs. These are the Jay Chen's of the pension fund industry, well-prepared for the coming storm. Crummy company=crummy pension plan.

Time to get a University job?



To: Elroy Jetson who wrote (49809)5/11/2004 7:37:30 PM
From: TobagoJack  Respond to of 74559
 
Hi Elroy, <<The weak funds take down the big ones as well with the demands generated by their defaults.>>

Yes, and the analogy in a neighborhood, the first desperate seller of his home starts the process, and takes down some of the rest of the neighbors.

And, on the road, the issue is not just how good a driver we are, but how good are all other drivers.

Chugs, Jay