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To: TigerPaw who wrote (177947)	5/12/2004 3:18:32 PM
From: Tenchusatsu	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

TP, How often does that really happen? Very often, especially in database applications, and especially when you're dealing with processor-to-bus ratios of 20:1 these days, i.e. "Hurry up and wait." Look, we're going around in circles. Suffice to say that Intel can indeed benefit from going with multiple cores even with the current bus structure. No point you have mentioned is based on any public facts or results, and I suspect it's all because you think Intel is scrambling to cover the Tejas cancellation and slow AMD's momentum. Hence your suspicion that there is no other reasons behind Intel's desire to move to dual-core. Tenchusatsu

To: TigerPaw who wrote (177947)	5/13/2004 2:33:00 PM
From: Tenchusatsu	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

TP, sorry I forgot to address this part of your post: It really gets tricky when you have dual chips (even if they have dual cores). The coherency checking has to take place over the external bus even in the case where the data is correlated within the same dual-core chip. Not true. If two cores on the same processor are accessing the same cacheline, no bus traffic (other than the original request for cacheline ownership) is required. Of course, if a core on a different processor also accesses that cacheline, then you'll end up with the same coherency checking that you would have for a dual-processor (single-core) system. But that's better than having three separate processors on the same bus competing for that cacheline. The trick to maximizing this advantage, of course, is proper assignment of tasks by the operating system. I'm not sure if Windows or Linux is up to that task. I doubt it, but even without specific OS support, performance will improve because of the other benefits of Intel moving to dual-core (e.g. faster FSB). Tenchusatsu