To: Sully- who wrote (43973 ) 5/13/2004 3:22:29 AM From: Michelino Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 793670 I'm guessing that you view Nadine as the resident attack dog and so you've decided to get in on the latest "Hate all the Arabs fest" with a little nip of your own. And for this you interrupt all that meaningful agreeing with yourself over on your vanity thread? I am well versed in events from not only the from the last decade, but also from the 300 that preceded it. My point of view was shaped by reading history from the original sources (and as always, I must caution against using your GI Joe comic books, history channel videos about WWII, Neville Chamberlain, blithering blogs, etc as a path to enlightment and please also note that my point of view on the Irag war was NOT formed while calculating the lease payments on the biggest baddest SUV I think I can afford.) For example, you and Nadine might want to look up the "Melian dialogue", it's about empire, democracy, might is right and all that good "we-do-it-to you-because-you would do-it-to-us" stuff. It is a part of the first real work of critical history, a story where the economic impetus of war was first recognized. (One of the bizarro twists in neo-con mythology is that even though the invasion of oil-rich Iraqi was championed by some of the most powerful ex oil executives in history and Bush and Cheney's recent business associates have made incredidble profits from the war, even still...the neo-cons contend that the war is not about oil and it is not about money. The real bizarro part is that when you ask them what is important, neo-cons and old-cons alike believe EVERYTHING is ultimately about money) Getting back to Melos, the dialogue ends, the genocide begins and, eventually, the world's prototype democracy is humiliated when enough of its enemies and former allies have had enough. We want to avoid that type of history repeating itself here.