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To: tejek who wrote (188476)	5/12/2004 8:59:41 PM
From: Road Walker	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1575595

Ted, You know what is strange? No US soldiers have been (reported) killed in Iraq in what, about a week (knock on wood)? It's almost simultaneous with our getting that former SH general to take over in Falluja. Makes you wonder if there IS someone in charge of the insurgency in Iraq. John

To: tejek who wrote (188476)	5/12/2004 8:59:46 PM
From: mph	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1575595

You pointed out that: Clearly, OBL is a butthole and a nutcase......but he's a clever one that has caused us a great deal of pain. He also is a strong proponent of a pure Islam and that the Muslim nations should be ruled by theocracies. That's why al Qaeda cells attack Turkey on a regular basis........because its secular and does not speak Arabic. And he is not alone in his beliefs. We then had the following discourse: Unfortunately, the terrorists know that they can tap into exactly the kind of sentiments you expressed. That's what makes them smart. They know how to get to us in the court of American public opinion, and that's what they rely on. Bull. You give them way too much power. We have done this to ourselves. We went into Iraq like a bull in a china closet. We didn't know jack what to do after Saddam fell. For a year, there were militias all over the country and we couldn't decide whether to disarm them or not. Now they fight us. So what is it that you think makes OBL so clever? You don't think he uses our own sentiments and very public display of hand-wringing against us? Perhaps if we spent more time being outraged by their behavior than falling into THEIR trap of blaming ourselves for everything, we would be far more successful in abating terrorism. There have been tons and tons of people outraged by 9/11 How successful have we been to date in Iraq? Have we caught OBL yet in Afghanistan? It looks to me like you're grasping at straws. Outrage doesn't lead to success; intelligent and well planned maneuvering does. You're an attorney; you should know that. The outrage I'm referring to concerns putting things into perspective. There has not nearly been the "outrage" over Arab atrocities as over the prison abuse scandal. Whether outrage per se leads to success is beside the point. It's a matter of how we deal with, and talk about, these issues. The prevailing sentiment I'm hearing from you and the media is that we've brought all of this on ourselves and we are the only ones to blame. That's exactly what the terrorists want you to believe and that's exactly what they rely on for their purposes. They are definitely smarter in this area. They must be chortling up their sleeves.