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Politics : Should God be replaced? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Solon who wrote (17459)	5/13/2004 3:54:05 AM
From: Greg or e	Read Replies (5) \| Respond to of 28931

"It is you who claims that only ONE of all the transcendent belief systems is the TRUE one" I am not the one who cannot go two sentences without making self-contradicting claims like "ALL TRUTH IS RELATIVE" "There is no such thing. Atheism has no creed,....You might try looking it up in a dictionary before you shoot off from the lip with such wild and ridiculous mouthing." You should take your own advise. dictionary.reference.com a·the·ism ( P ) Pronunciation Key (th-zm) n. 1 a Disbelief in or denial of the existence of God or gods. b The doctrine that there is no God or gods. 2 Godlessness; immorality. You don't need a formal creed to be an extreme fundamentalist Atheist. Stalin puts his "DOCTRINE" into action by doing whatever, to whomever he pleased. Practically; that resulted in millions of innocent deaths. "The Dark Ages called torture and murder "justice". That is because they had a morality based on "might is right"; and others must be forced to think superstitiously as they did" It's the atheistic Khmer Rouge who more accurately fit your description. "In the social creatures referred to as Homo sapiens there are certain behaviors which rationally lead to profit. These include..." "Murder, rape, theft, deceit, etc etc etc...." "What a contemptible remark! First, you implied that you would act immorally if there were no (Christian) God to believe in (there being no other basis in your unique and weird weltanschauung for behaving in a civilized manner). Now you go beyond inanity by implying that rationality is associated with "Murder, rape, theft...". Have you thought of giving up your pots for a comedy act?!" Why not respond with reason instead of just saying everything is ridiculous or contemptible? I have to get some sleep. I'll finish this in the morning. Goodnight Johnboy

To: Solon who wrote (17459)	5/14/2004 2:11:00 AM
From: Greg or e	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 28931

Would you like some mayo with your red herrings? "So, if you did not believe in God (the Christian one) you would then not consider killing innocent people wrong?" Of course I would consider it wrong but I am not a murderer. If I were I would simply challenge you to prove from reason alone that what I did was wrong. That's exactly what the Nazi's did. They complained (with some degree of accuracy) that the winners of the war were simply imposing their morals on them by force. "That is because they had a morality based on "might is right";" Talk about the pot calling the kettle black! "What did the superstitious always attack? REASON.....Why do they hate reason? Simply this: because reason opposes the morality of "might is right" That's the atheist's morality not the Christian's. "In the social creatures referred to as Homo sapiens there are certain behaviors which rationally lead to profit. These include..." "<<<Murder, rape, theft, deceit, etc etc etc....>>>" You have totally failed to refute this with logic, so you have nothing left but to throw around more red herrings. "Have you not read just a little history and noticed that freedom and individual rights correspond to the rise of reason in culture after culture?" The jury of History is still out on the ultimate results of the "enlightenment". As previously noted the ones that have tried; notably Russia and China have ended rather badly. What we are beginning to see is the dissolution of society that comes as the enlightenment principals are put into practice by the new Priesthood of the Judiciary. "Perhaps your fanaticism has blinded you in both eyes." <<<Physician heal thyself.>>>