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To: Rascal who wrote (132805)	5/13/2004 9:55:54 AM
From: Neocon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Friedman was a natural for disillusionment with the Administration. What was strange was his level- headedness in the first place, not his loss of nerve now.

To: Rascal who wrote (132805)	5/13/2004 12:35:23 PM
From: Win Smith	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

It's about time that Friedman took W at his word. W is a war president. He's never going to change. Friedman is entitled to some special sense of betrayal, though, since the war propagandists adapted his "democracy domino" theory when it seemed convenient but never actually went beyond lip service on that front. It's far from clear that they ever actually believed in it, anyway.

To: Rascal who wrote (132805)	5/13/2004 8:42:47 PM
From: Hawkmoon	Respond to of 281500

That is frightening when Friedman get so political. But I have great respect for his professional opinion.. However, the comment about somehow suddenly evacuating or releasing 7,000 detainees back onto the street and shutting down the prison is a bit unrealistic. However, I agree that the Rumsfeld should have stated emphatically that DOD planned on shutting down the prison at the earliest opportunity. That would have been something, and showed some kind of moral committment towards sending a humanitarian signal.. We'll see if Kerry picks up on Friedman's article and tries to pull to the right and pick up dissented votes amongst moderates and some conservatives. But I'm still concerned about Kerry's lack of specificity with regard to exactly how he would be doing anything differently in Iraq. But he made a good point about Bush trying to understate this war and the possibility that we might have to exert a greater national effort to it, should we encounter difficulties, or something like the prisoner abuse scandal.. There are lots of things Kerry could do to win my vote. But right now I'm VERY LEERY about his dependence on the Michael Moore and anti-war crowd.. They are not going to get him elected.. Nor is any policy aimed toward retreat without a mission success. Hawk