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To: Michelino who wrote (44172)	5/13/2004 4:48:32 PM
From: LindyBill	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793698

so why don't I recognize any trend in the main stream media that I or any other card carrying Liberal can feel at home with? Because the left has a real crisis of philosophy ever since the core "central planning" ideas all went down the drain. Every serious critique I read from the left explores this. That is why you are seeing the attempt to set up Liberal Think Tanks to set an agenda. But the problem they have is that the structure doesn't work if there is no central core of ideas left to build on. "Take from the rich to help the poor" doesn't resonate anymore. Lindy Hop did very well in New Orleans when Dean Collins spent some time there in the late 30s before he went to Hollywood. Who is Dean? If you look at any Lindy/Jitterbug in the movies in the 40's and 50's involving white dancers, Dean is the lead dancer, or taught the ones who are. Jimmy Buffet did a lot of Lindy in New Orleans in the late fifties. The Music, by the way, is any swing. New Orlean's big dance today is Cajun/Zydeco.

To: Michelino who wrote (44172)	5/13/2004 5:36:29 PM
From: LindyBill	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793698

It's comments like this that push me to the edge. Instapundit - YOU KNOW, sometimes I feel like maybe I'm too harsh in my charges of media bias. Then I read accounts like this one from Baghdad, by the Daily Telegraph's correspondent Toby Harnden: The other day, while taking a break by the Al-Hamra Hotel pool, fringed with the usual cast of tattooed defence contractors, I was accosted by an American magazine journalist of serious accomplishment and impeccable liberal credentials. She had been disturbed by my argument that Iraqis were better off than they had been under Saddam and I was now - there was no choice about this - going to have to justify my bizarre and dangerous views. I'll spare you most of the details because you know the script - no WMD, no `imminent threat' (though the point was to deal with Saddam before such a threat could emerge), a diversion from the hunt for bin Laden, enraging the Arab world. Etcetera. But then she came to the point. Not only had she `known' the Iraq war would fail but she considered it essential that it did so because this would ensure that the `evil' George W. Bush would no longer be running her country. Her editors back on the East Coast were giggling, she said, over what a disaster Iraq had turned out to be. `Lots of us talk about how awful it would be if this worked out.' Startled by her candour, I asked whether thousands more dead Iraqis would be a good thing. She nodded and mumbled something about Bush needing to go. By this logic, I ventured, another September 11 on, say, September 11 would be perfect for pushing up John Kerry's poll numbers. `Well, that's different - that would be Americans,' she said, haltingly. `I guess I'm a bit of an isolationist.' That's one way of putting it. The moral degeneracy of these sentiments didn't really hit me until later when I dined at the home of Abu Salah, a father of six who took over as the Daily Telegraph's chief driver in Baghdad when his predecessor was killed a year ago. Moral degeneracy, indeed. You hate to think that any American journalist could feel this way, but we've had other admissions of this sort in the past. To explain things in words of few syllables: It's wrong to root for your country's defeat. Especially when that defeat would mean the death of innocents. And surely it's worse still when it's merely for domestic political advantage.