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To: Lane3 who wrote (44219)5/13/2004 6:42:22 PM
From: DMaA  Respond to of 793686
 
Because nobody cares what Buchanan thinks.



To: Lane3 who wrote (44219)5/13/2004 9:15:48 PM
From: Lane3  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793686
 
washingtonpost.com
The Pro-War Press Breaks With Bush

By Jefferson Morley
washingtonpost.com Staff Writer
Thursday, May 13, 2004; 7:42 AM

In the ranks of journalism, they were the coalition of the willing: the newspapers that supported President Bush's decision to invade Iraq in March 2003.

These news outlets made the case for overthrowing Saddam Hussein, often in the face of strong anti-war feelings in their countries. Their editorials lent credibility and moral support to the White House's claims that the U.S.-led war had international backing.

Today, they are having second thoughts.

"Rumsfeld will have to go," declares an editorial in the Australian, the national daily founded in 1964 by an aspiring young businessman named Rupert Murdoch.

"The case for invading Iraq last April remains watertight," the editors asserted Wednesday. "Saddam Hussein was a destabilising force in the region and the world; he had form for using WMD against his enemies, internal and external; and he had flouted a string of Security Council declarations, demanding full UN inspection of his facilities, stretching back a decade."

With the failure of coalition forces to locate WMD in Iraq, they continue, "the fact we were bringing democracy, freedom and human rights where torture had reigned unchallenged, became the key to convincing the Iraqi people, Muslim nations across the world and critics of the war in the West, that the coalition cause was just." But they argue that the images of physical and sexual abuse at Abu Ghraib dealt a "grievous body blow" to a just cause, and that Rumsfeld is responsible.

Rumfeld's departure, they conclude, "would unambiguously show the people of Iraq that the US does not cut and run when confronted by its own failings and that rank does not exempt men and women from the rules. For ordinary Iraqis this would define an extraordinary distinction from Saddam's dictatorship. Rather than a sign of weakness it would make clear the overwhelming strength of the law that governs all Americans."

The editors of the Scotsman, a conservative daily in Edinburgh, said "the question is whether or not maintaining the morale of the soldiery in Iraq is a purpose best served by the survival of a defence secretary who is widely perceived to have lost the confidence of the country and the world."

While praising Rumsfeld as an "astute tactician" who "understands the scale of the challenge facing America" after Sept. 11, the editors also fault him for the "short-sighted lack of planning for life in Iraq after Saddam."

"The immoral treatment of prisoners has now come to symbolize those failures of judgment," they say.

Their recommendation: Rumsfeld should resign.

"Democracy means accountability," they conclude. "For the United States to recapture a sense of decency, he should do the decent thing."

In the reliably conservative Daily Telegraph, columnist Jenny McCartney said she was confused by Rumsfeld's statement that he would "resign in a minute" if he felt he could not be an effective leader.

"On that basis, he should be gone already: he has already proved an ineffective leader, and will be much less effective in the wake of this miserable scandal. For what has leaked out of Abu Ghraib, along with the stomach-churning whiff of chaos and sadism, is the fundamental incompetence in the running of the US military from the top down. "

Not all war supporters think Rumsfeld is the issue.

Amir Taheri, an Iranian journalist based in England and a supporter of the war, writes in the Gulf News that the fate of any individual is less important than the fate of Iraq.

"Rumsfeld could always be booted out. George W Bush could always be voted out of office. But the unique opportunity to stabilise and rebuild Iraq as a democratic state must not be wasted. Let us have all the Abu Ghraib trials we need."

If Iraq is allowed "to slide into chaos or fall under a new despot," Taheri concludes, "the world will witness horrors compared to which Abu Ghraib would look like a garden party."

The editors of the resolutely pro-war Jerusalem Post are not conceding anything.

"No upstanding democracy can tolerate such behavior, and we are confident that America won't. Still, such abuses should, if anything, remind us what has been achieved in Iraq and how important it is that that success be consolidated rather than discarded for lack of patience or perspective."

Westerners should not "condemn ourselves and the world to much greater injustices by simply throwing in the towel in this war to defend our freedom and beliefs," they conclude.

But at least one war supporter is abandoning the cause altogether.

Toronto Star columnist John Derringer writes that he thought "like so many millions of others did, that the American forces would be in and out of there before you could say Grenada."

"I truly believed that Saddam would be toppled and a new government set up within a year, with minimal American casualties."

Now, he says the war "is no longer about freedom or terror. It's about one man's political agenda, and dead American soldiers are obviously not about to get in his way. I thought it was about more than that. I was wrong."

© 2004 Washingtonpost.Newsweek Interactive



To: Lane3 who wrote (44219)5/14/2004 4:26:10 AM
From: LindyBill  Respond to of 793686
 
Low-Down on the Don Ho American Idol Conspiracy


Written by Panndyra


Conspiracy theory? Or not?
USA --

The whole country was in shock from 9:55 - 9:57 EST last night as LaToya London was voted off of American Idol.

"Man, this is the defining moment of our generation. Everyone's gonna remember what they were doing when they heard that LaToya London was voted off American Idol. Jasmine's whack, yo! It's a conspiracy. She ain't nothing but a Don HO." A young gentleman standing on a corner just drinking his Gin n' Juice told this reporter in between sobs.

This reporter wasn't sure exactly what that meant, but she decided to contact Don Ho to find out. A spokesperson for the Hawaiian icon said, "We are pleased at how far Jasmine's come. Yes. It's our plan for Hawaii to dominate the mainland musically. Don couldn't do it alone so he's started an academy for not-so gifted but really cute singers named after Disney characters. Yes, they're called Don's Hos, but that's not widely known information. How did you get this number again?"

The spokesperson then put me on hold and I had to listen to the muzak version of "Tiny Bubbles" for six minutes.

I asked her if there was a conspiracy going on. She said, "Whatever do you mean? We don't have diallers programmed with Jasmine's number, if that's what you are asking? Hawaiians have much better things to do with their time than to repeatedly text message a reality TV show." She then put the receiver down.

I distinctly heard her whisper, "But, sir, she's on to us. What should I do?"

"Get rid of her...just like we got rid of Jennifer Hudson and Latoya London. Do it now." Then, the phone went dead.

I am typing this story now as I sit in my parked car writing on my lap top. I'm afraid to go home because there are three large Polynesian men outside my door in multi-colored shirts, strumming ukuleles.

I'm not sure if my investigation into this American Idol scandal is related to this or not, but they are singing Don Ho songs. Be careful, Diana and Fantasia. You may be next.



To: Lane3 who wrote (44219)5/19/2004 3:13:40 PM
From: Bill  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793686
 
Are you a Fantasia or Diana woman?