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To: Taikun who wrote (49982)	5/14/2004 2:17:58 AM
From: Raymond Duray	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 74559

Taikun, On Silicon Investor, we meet all kinds of people, some are here to learn, some are here to manipulate others, some are here to teach or share the wisdom and knowledge that they have. Your post has the unfortunate caste of being an attempt to manipulate rather than enlighten. Debate aficionados see that what you just did was an attempt to "bandwagon" and/or emotionally appeal to a sense of nationalism, tribalism or misplaced patriotism. What was crucially missing from you post was information, hard facts and reality. *** Re: I'm not sure Nick Berg's family agrees with you. I am absolutely certain that Nick Berg's father, Michael, filed a lawsuit against the U.S. government on April 5, demanding the that U.S. government release Nick Berg from detention. Which occurred on April 6. I am also completely certain that the U.S. government has denied that it was detaining Nick Berg, and that today, Nick Berg's father released emails proving beyond the shadow of a doubt that the U.S. government was lying about Nick Berg's detention. In an interview with CNN today, Michael Berg blamed George Bush for his son's death. He didn't accuse al Qaeda. He didn't accuse Abu Musab al-Zarqawi. He accused George Bush. So why does this matter? Significantly, it matters because the U.S. government has gotten really sloppy with this latest "wag the dog" episode. There is every reason in the world to believe that the purported execution tape is a fake. informationclearinghouse.info The purported ring-leader muffed his lines. He lost his place in his script. He couldn't even pronounce "Allah Akhbar" correctly. And the failure of the severed carotid artery to create a profound ejecta of blood was completely suspect. aztlan.net Furthermore, it appears from the tape that was purported distributed through the Al Kaeda™ website that the purported Islamist militants had exposed flesh far more typical of those of European heritage than that of Semites, that these perpetrators exhibited body language consistent with Western military men at "parade rest" and not consistent with Arab standards of comportment. Finally, the AK-47 style weapon wielded by one of the purported terrorist/assassins appears to be the "Galil" Israeli version of this weapon. Message 20127092 * Do you worry that you are being abused by your government's efforts to control your mind? You should: Message 20125544 Because your government is engaged in trying make you a fool: The Mighty Wurlitzer, how the CIA influences American media -- namebase.org cpj.org totse.com * Re: Which side are you on, Ray? Obviously not yours. I'm on the side that insists that honesty, integrity and honor are more valuable to this nation than is your sycophantic, infantile and cluelessly emotional loyalty to America's royalty. You can't handle the truth.... can you? PS: Bonus points for you if you can read this entire site's information on the bogus Berg brouhaha and not come away thinking you are being played for a chump by the U.S. government: unobserver.com