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To: Zeuspaul who wrote (132907)	5/13/2004 9:57:40 PM
From: Sarmad Y. Hermiz	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

>> If you invest $100 billion in Fuel cells how much energy would you save? Well, the Toyota company, using just a tiny fraction of their normal cash flow, developed the Prius vehicle, which gets 60 mpg, and whose entire production for 2004 was sold out in Nov 2003. And Now they are introducing a 7-passenger SUV on the same hybrid power-train that gets 35mpg. And it didn't cost their taxpayers a single penny. But of course, they don't pretend to be conversing with God. It is not even a matter of spending any money. It is just deciding that is the direction to go. Sarmad

To: Zeuspaul who wrote (132907)	5/13/2004 9:58:32 PM
From: Hawkmoon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Zeuspaul... I want you to read the following and tell me if you still think we've done the wrong by overthrowing Saddam's regime: Hi Friends, Regarding the horrible act of beheading the poor hostage Nicolas Berg, there is no use in expressions of horror and condemnation, but it is necessary to express sincere condolence and sympathy with the family of the victim. But I would like to inform the American friends that beheading was known to be one of the techniques of the Fedayeen Saddam. The late Uday, the son of Saddam commanded that particular outfit. I think it was the summer of 1999 when we woke up some morning to be shocked by some horrible news. Before we tell you about that it is necessary to recount something that has some bearing on the subject. You might have heard that an assassination attempt against Uday had taken place in 1996, which left him with injuries that caused impotency. This made him even more cruel and sadistic than his usual self. It has been revealed after the fall of the regime that he shot the doctor who broke the news to him (c.f. interview with one of the close bodyguards of Uday at Al Arabia last year). This added one more complex to his extensive repertoire of psychological problems. He started to hate anything to do with other people having any kind of sexual pleasure. Well, that horrible day we learnt that the night before the Fedayeen had attacked scores of houses and dragged women and young girls to streets and beheaded many with swords leaving the heads at the doorsteps of the victims houses. Some of these heads were left in place for more than twenty-four hours. The atrocities lasted for several weeks. The pretext for this behavior was a campaign against prostitution. The women who were beheaded were alleged to be prostitution madams and some of their young girls. I remember that my young boys came home suffering from shock as one of these houses was in our area and they knew the occupants quite well. The victims were taken by surprised and there was nothing to arouse their fears before that night. This was typical of the Baathists when they planned some atrocity to attack suddenly at some predetermined moment without any previous warning. Throughout the reign of the Baath party and particularly the Saddam era, it was customary to suffer periodic atrocities carefully planned and imaginatively variable to keep the people terrified all the time. It was considered necessary not to leave the people too long without some thing awful to keep them intimidated properly. The Baathists were masters of the “Terreur”, and it was the essential means of their hold on power. In fact what we see now is something rather similar. It is a similar technique; they are trying to intimidate both the Iraqi people first but mainly the western people. They will stop at nothing. You must understand that this is their only expertise; their sole training and method and way of thinking. They think they can inspire fear and terror into the Coalition forces and their people and leadership exactly in the same way that they did with the Iraqis. They think that they can intimidate the whole world exactly in the same way that they did with us. So I just wanted to say the above to help people understand why these horrible things are happening: You are just being treated to a small sample of what we suffered for more than three decades. Salaam messopotamian.blogspot.com

To: Zeuspaul who wrote (132907)	5/13/2004 11:23:57 PM
From: Sig	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

<<How many solar cells does $100 billion buy?>> Taking a gross cut at the figures, solar cells cost about $4 /watt $100 bil would buy enough to produce about 1/100 the amount produced by all electric untilities in the US. That would assume 6 hours of sunshine average per day, which would mean location in a sunny state. The power output is also direct current which needs conversion to A/C . You could add another cost of $100 bil for installation, controls, and paperwork. And as the sun goes down the lights go out and machines run slower, and slower, unless the petroleum fed emergency generators kick in. And dont forget the hailstorms (very common here)which can destroy the panels. Or an accumulation of dust to reduce the output. Altogether, a very expensive alternative but useful for special purposes Sig Sig