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Politics : Bush-The Mastermind behind 9/11? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: sea_urchin who wrote (6387)5/14/2004 6:49:20 PM
From: sea_urchin  Respond to of 20039
 
And from darkness comes a ray of light --- and hope.

nytimes.com

>>...reports of a handful of soldiers who refused to take part bring to light a behavior psychologists find even more puzzling: disobedience.

Maj. Gen. Antonio M. Taguba praised the actions of three men who tried to stop the mistreatment. They are nowhere to be seen in the portraits of brutality that have touched off outrage around the world.

...psychologists have found that a certain percentage of people simply refuse to give in to pressure — by authorities or by peers — if they feel certain actions are wrong.

The men ... dissented despite the threat of being ridiculed or even court-martialed for not following orders. Psychologists believe they may have been guided by a strong moral compass and past experiences with conformity.

It is sometimes the case that they themselves have been scapegoated or turned on by the crowd.

The more you feel support for your dissent, the more likely you are to do it

The power to resist coercion reflects what psychologists call internal locus of control, or the ability to determine one's own destiny.<<



To: sea_urchin who wrote (6387)5/14/2004 6:51:17 PM
From: Raymond Duray  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 20039
 
Hi Searle,

Re: So there is a link between Berg and 9-11. Was Berg a spy, if so, for who? Why was it time to get rid of him? Qui bono?

The link to Moussaoui is curious, but could just be a freakish coincidence. I haven't delved too deeply into this.

The notion that Berg was a spy is suggested by his derring-do sort of approach to travel around Iraq. Considering the fluidity of circumstances there, he was taking some remarkable risks for what appeared to be very dubious reasons. Anyone even remotely familiar with the contracting scene in Iraq knows that it is tightly controlled by the CPA and a handful of prime contractors. Traipsing around the country, as Berg was doing, was perhaps the least likely method of securing contracts for tower construction.

The timing of the beheading announcement, it would seem, was designed very much like the "Jose Padilla" announcements on June 10, 2002 to knock stories out of the media that were proving too embarrassing and revealing for the Bush Administration. In that instance, the Colleen Rowley and 9/11 Families stories. In this instance the widening probe into systematic U.S. torture.