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To: Rambi who wrote (44585)5/15/2004 1:18:19 PM
From: LindyBill  Respond to of 793719
 
It is a system guaranteed to create dependency and doom people to a cycle of poverty.

That names the problem. Sure we have some people who refuse to take help, won't help themselves, and can't be forced into institutions. But this is a small part of the welfare problem.

It think the lesson that can be observed when you look at the reforms of 94 is that one hell of a lot of these people will suck it up and look after themselves when forced to. A lot more than the Welfare bureaucracy will ever admit.

I don't know anything about Mangano, but I do know where the Think tanks were going with the reform. A lot of it is theory, but it gets back to the folk wisdom of the "deserving" and the "undeserving" poor that was the 19th century standard.

Get the care down to the local level. Run it though charitable institutions. Quit trying to "manage" these people with Federal Government bureaucracies. That is what they are after. There are no "good" solutions. But we know a lot more now about what won't work.



To: Rambi who wrote (44585)5/16/2004 3:28:34 AM
From: D. Long  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793719
 
Like the Atlantic article mentions, Mangano's approach is solve the problem, not manage it. The social welfare system is not designed to solve the problem, just treat it. "Tend their sores", as Bill put it. It's an interesting policy problem.

Derek