To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (23081 ) 5/16/2004 12:48:52 PM From: American Spirit Respond to of 81568 Why does Rummy deny he approved this? Sounds like the Cheney-Bush doctrine against terror. And it's not altogether wrong. We DO need to be tough. "The New Yorker said the interrogation plan was a highly classified "special access program," or SAP, that gave advance approval to kill, capture or interrogate so-called high-value targets in the battle against terror. Such secret methods were used extensively in Afghanistan but more sparingly in Iraq -- only in the search for former President Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) and weapons of mass destruction. As the Iraqi insurgency grew and more U.S. soldiers died, Rumsfeld and Defense Undersecretary for Intelligence Stephen Cambone expanded the scope to bring the interrogation tactics to Abu Ghraib, the article said. The magazine, which based its article on interviews with several past and present American intelligence officials, reported the plan was approved and carried out last year after deadly bombings in August at the U.N. headquarters and Jordanian Embassy in Baghdad. A former intelligence official quoted in the article said Rumsfeld and Gen. Richard Myers, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, approved the program but may not have known about the abuse. 'DO WHAT YOU WANT' The rules governing the secret operation were "grab whom you must. Do what you want," the unidentified former intelligence official told the New Yorker. Rumsfeld left the details of the interrogations to Cambone, the article quoted a Pentagon consultant as saying. "This is Cambone's deal, but Rumsfeld and Myers approved the program," said the Pentagon consultant in the article." Pentagon spokesman Di Rita said Cambone had no responsibility for detainees or interrogation programs anywhere, including in Afghanistan or Iraq. U.S. officials have admitted the abuse may have violated the Geneva Conventions, which governs treatment of prisoners of war. The New Yorker said the CIA (news - web sites), which approved using high-pressure interrogation tactics against senior al Qaeda leaders after the 2001 attacks, balked at extending them to Iraq and refused to participate After initiating the secret techniques, the U.S. military began learning useful intelligence about the insurgency, the former intelligence official was quoted as saying. 9Additional reporting by Charles Aldinger)