To: IQBAL LATIF who wrote (46205 ) 5/20/2004 3:34:27 AM From: IQBAL LATIF Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 50167 Ike on democracy in Pakistan the day it was murdered.circa Tuesday, Oct 12, 1999 1:35 PM To demand my credentials on freedom and democracy is nothing but a cheap way to discredit my small contributions, I take pride what I write and one can go back on my thread, it is liivng hisotry of contemporary issues. This thread is run by human beings who have never shied away from taking positions in heat of moments, to be a non entity and to expect respect is very self destructive streak. Message 11519831 <OT........................... I am a 'Pakistani' not a Kuwaiti. I lived in Kuwait long time and that is it... what a tragedy that as a Pakistani standing for freedom, democracy I stand today so low and so disgraced.. a 'feeling of shame' that you are lowest rung on the ladder of civilised countries hits hard and just trying to overcome it, even African banana republics has a better record in this decade...Thanks>Message 11528047 OT.................. <This is shocking, military actions in this day and age are not condonable, no one can condone it, this was nothing but 'broad day light banditry' and 'hi-treason' in my opinion. This is condemnable. We need immediate installation of a civilian set up (AS MUCH CRIPPLED IT MAY BE) and need army to back to barracks. This trampling of 'constitution' makes me feel so poor, depressed and annoyed that 'why us only in the world can go to these extremes' this is making mockery of what we call constitution. Whatever the reasons, the generals with heavy boots have killed the nascent democracy in the bud that we Pakistanis were trying to build. They should realize the economy is 'bad' because 600,000 standing army needs 8% of the GDP and that cannot go on for ever. To cut the last pound of flesh and demand from politicians to keep begging for more is not going to work. This time around the hardest hit will be their own interest, no one trusts our commitments and no one like this belligerency in our attitudes. The economic impact of this action would traumatize the country for long term. What can I say I am ashamed that I have to see this today, I wish as a nation we could have had little tolerance, little love little forbearance and less of this urge to keep fighting a futile battle for nothing, that is destroying us.. >Message 11528016 ..Writing from Islamabad and under thumb of Mush as a person known to everyone has given me this hope that my country is not Iraq. In Iraq such a dissent is and was punishable by death.