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To: Ish who wrote (45615)	5/20/2004 1:31:59 AM
From: unclewest	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793838

The Russians had 400k people killed taking East Berlin. Puts a whole 'nother thing about 2 killed. 400k, that boggles my mind. The Russians basically took all of Berlin. There was no East Berlin until the war ended and the city was divided. They lost several thousand men near the corner of Ahorn Str and Schloss Str in Steglitz. I lived at Ahorn Str 26 for a coupla years in the 60s. I used to walk the streets with a description of each battle to try to get a feel for how it went. This was in the middle of what was to become the American Sector. I have visited the Russian cemeteries and memorials in East Berlin and just West of the Brandenburg Gate in West Berlin, near the wall, N of checkpoint Charlie and the big angel statue (I forget what it means). The name of the famous street there where the gate is located is Strasse des 17. Juni. Looking East across the wall to the gate. The old Reichstag was in view to the left and in front of the wall. The location of Hitler's bunker was 100 meters away if you knew where to look. I have been told this area is now the seat of the German Federal Govt since they moved to Berlin from Bonn. Was back there twice after the wall came down and it was shockingly different. The guards and the wall were gone. Gypsies were selling Russian uniform stuff under the Brandenburg gate. On the West side of the American sector (just west of Checkpoint Bravo) I crossed Glienecke Bruecke "Freedom Bridge" (Gary Powers and other prisoner exchanges took place there during the cold war.) for the first time with no wall and no Soviet guards. Berlin used to be a fascinating place. Now Berlin is an old story. We skiied there too. There is one ski hill in Berlin with a lift.. It is called Teufelsberg (devil's mountain). The hill is 100% war rubble. We had radio intercept towers on it throughout the cold war. uw