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To: tsigprofit who wrote (20315)	5/21/2004 10:03:47 AM
From: xcr600	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 48461

Imagine the outcry in this country if a forgeign govt was doing this to our troops... Pentagon investigates 'brutal' deaths of 5 Iraqi prisoners Report: 75 cases of Iraqi prisoner abuse being examined by Tom Regan \| csmonitor.com The Denver Post reported Wednesday that Pentagon records show "brutal interrogation techniques" used by US military personnel are being investigated in the deaths of five Iraqi prisoners who were held in war zone detention camps. The Post says the details of the deaths of the prisoners provide the "clearest view" yet of the kind of tactics used to "coax secrets from Iraqis." The deaths include the killing in November of a high-level Iraqi general who was shoved into a sleeping bag and suffocated, according to the Pentagon report. The documents contradict an earlier Defense Department statement that said the general died "of natural causes" during an interrogation. Pentagon officials declined to comment on the new disclosure. Another Iraqi military officer, records show, was asphyxiated after being gagged, his hands tied to the top of his cell door. Another detainee died "while undergoing stress technique interrogation," involving smothering and "chest compressions," according to the documents. Documents obtained during the Post's investigation show that 75 allegations of prisoner abuse are being investigated in Iraq – more than twice as many as previously reported. Twenty-seven of those allegations involve the death of a prisoner, and eight of those 27 are "believed to be homocides." ABC News reported Tuesday that a former US intelligence staffer at Abu Ghraib prison near Baghdad says the Army concealed its involvement in abuse scandal. "There's definitely a cover-up," the witness, Sgt. Samuel Provance, said. "People are either telling themselves or being told to be quiet." The Washington Post reports that Sgt. Provance ran a top secret computer network at the Iraqi prison. While Provance did not see any of the alleged abuse take place, he said military interrogators talked freely about the tactics they used. more-- csmonitor.com

To: tsigprofit who wrote (20315)	5/21/2004 11:28:38 AM
From: the navigator	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 48461

these soldiers, not all - but the ones that did this - are dishonorable, sadistic bastards These soldiers are not an aberration, they are a reflection of their society and their leaders. I hope we don't try to segregate these soldiers from the rest of us, instead of taking responsibility as a society for what is happening. This is fundamentally what we did during Viet Nam, only it took much longer. It appears that Iraq is happening at hyper-speed.