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To: LindyBill who wrote (46182)	5/21/2004 10:12:54 PM
From: Dayuhan	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793978

This makes no sense to me at all, and it sounds to me like Ledeen is just trying to cover his own ass, he having been a prominent Chalabi supporter for some time. There was no need to torpedo Chalabi to get rid of him. He has zero popular following in Iraq. He was already irrelevant. I think the ivory tower neocons, people like Perle and Ledeen, slipped up and don't want to admit it. You may not often agree with State and CIA, but they do have a source of information or two, and they may have known or suspected some things about Chalabi that the DC ideologues didn't, or wouldn't, see. an Iraqi leader with unquestioned democratic convictions, someone at once deeply religious and yet committed to the separation of mosque and state Oh, please. A leader of what, one might ask. The only people he leads are American, and he's been leading them in circles, and sucking up a fair bit of cash in the process. A little silly to talk about the INC, also, since the INC in its prewar form no longer exists, and the current version is barely even a marginal force in Iraq. I think they got him. I hope they get whoever was feeding him classified information as well.

To: LindyBill who wrote (46182)	5/22/2004 12:21:21 AM
From: unclewest	Respond to of 793978

Shortly after moving to Washington from Rome — we're talking late Seventies — I did a long interview with Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan about the Carter administration's foreign policy. At a certain point, Moynihan elegantly summarized what had happened to us: "being unable to distinguish between our friends and our enemies," he said, "Carter has adopted our enemies' view of the world." So, it seems have many of our policymakers in their panicky and incoherent decisions regarding Iraq. Lordie do I agree with that. That is exactly what Kerry and his followers have done. Make that a headline.