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To: GUSTAVE JAEGER who wrote (6583)	5/22/2004 10:32:46 AM
From: sea_urchin	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 20039

Gustave > You naively believe that the stratocrats who rule Israel lament about their dire state of affairs because it somehow precludes the dawn of a peaceful, prosperous and enlightening Israel I think you missed my point. I am not one who believes that peace has "somehow" escaped Israel. I believe, as you do, that low-scale (or even high-scale) war has been a deliberate policy of Israel since its inception. What I am also saying is that the policy is destroying Israel just as much, or even more, than it has crushed the Palestinians. There are no more Russian Jews, or indeed Jews in the diaspora anywhere, who are available to swell the ranks of the IDF. The days of mass immigration to Israel are gone, in fact, more people leave Israel today than come and Jewish numbers everywhere are in the decline. The days of 140K Jews in SA are long past. More like 60K today. Demography will ultimately decide, not fantasy. > As far as Herzl's utopia for a Jewish homeland is concerned, Israel is, and will remain, a fiasco --an aborted fantasy... No doubt about that. So you agree with me --- Israel has destroyed itself!!

To: GUSTAVE JAEGER who wrote (6583)	1/25/2007 12:02:37 PM
From: Elmer Flugum	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 20039

"Israel would be no safeguard --most likely the US of A will." As it should be. Of the six million Isra'Elis I am guessing that 30% of them are Americans and Europeans with homes in America and Europe. Relocation would not present a problem for these folks. America could wasily absorb most of the remaining Zionists with the Sabras remaining in a democratic Palestine. In a time of oppression against world Jewry, how would those being persecuted get to Isra'El in a timely safe manner? I agree, Isra'El is an illusionary safe haven, perhaps part of the myth of the need for a "Jewish" state. Isra'El is the most dangerous place to be a Jew (outside of the Arab world). len