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To: Sarmad Y. Hermiz who wrote (133858)	5/22/2004 12:43:44 PM
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I noticed the response that it's not really torture. If I had the heart for it, I would compile and post a descriptive list of the charges and ask, one by one, if that would be torture, to the torture deniers. I might anyway. And I see that a good way to get information is to sweep up innocents and torture them figuring that a small percentage of of them may give you not misinformation about their neighbor to make the torture stop, but something useful. We might try that in this country, where we have all sorts of social problems. Just arrest and torture everybody on Main Street between Maple Street and Elm Drive. Many experts believe that torture isn't the most effective way to get valid information, incidentally. What an irony if in fact Rumsfeld was tricked by the Iranians, via Chalabi, into doing their bidding ... and then Bush wins again because people like his hapless, clueless facial expression.