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To: h0db who wrote (133883)	5/22/2004 10:52:41 AM
From: Hawkmoon	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

And everywhere democracy has emerged from totalitarianism--South Korea, Taiwan, S.E. Asia, Central America, Eastern Europe, it happened without force of arms, or after force of arms had failed. Geezus... what a poor history student you must have been... Have you ever been to the Korean War memorial in DC? Do you ever ponder the tremendous loss of lives that resulted from Kim Il Sung's attempt to conquer the entire peninsula? What he tried to on the Korea peninsula was no different than what Ho Chi Minh did in Vietnam. And South Korea PROSPERED, while NK remains economically and socially desolate. And this is the same result that communism had in Vietnam... Economic ruin and social repression. Yeah...so much for your "power play" concept there.. But, in the places where we succeeded, it ALL REQUIRED the tremendous force of arms and loss of life in order to prevent those totalitarian regimes from spreading, BY FORCE, THEIR "values" and plunging these societies into abject poverty and misery. Of course, if the democrats happen to be leftists, they had to be crushed since they might have opposed US power or business interests. Democratic.. leftists? Are you referring to liberals, or are you referring to Marxists/Maoists? Because I would HARDLY believe you have any credible evidence to show us where communism was either democratic or liberal. And in any case, you don't permit to exist a political party that would seek to eliminate the very democracy that brought it to power. I'm about creating a political system h0db, not a political party. I want a governmental system that has a free marketplace of ideas from which the people of the world can pick and choose. And if, by chance, they find a particular political choice was wrong, or no longer meets their needs, then they will always have the right to vote it out of power. Is there something wrong with that? Hawk