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To: RealMuLan who wrote (50410)	5/24/2004 3:55:15 PM
From: Joe S Pack	Respond to of 74559

What is your understanding of "untouchable"? As I wrote earlier "untouchable" in what sense? Being "untouchable" is due to their birth in a low caste and don't enjoy inherited economic benefits. Other than that Caste based social segregation is pervasive in all wakes of life in India. But as for voting rights, participation in government etc., they have as much right as the others. In fact the quota system is so alluring that several high caste people have forged their birth certificate to get college admissions and to get government jobs. Being Caste based "untouchable" is as bad as being a poor born in a backward class Caste or even in a high Caste.

To: RealMuLan who wrote (50410)	5/25/2004 1:28:08 AM
From: Maurice Winn	Respond to of 74559

Why China isn't going to get far. <... In China, the situation regarding the state's attempt to control information and the population's inability to manage it is immeasurably worse. Until China undergoes a genuine cultural revolution that alters permanently and deeply the relationship among state, citizen, and information, that country will bog down at the industrial level. Its sheer size guarantees continued growth, but there will be a flattening in the coming decades and, decisively, China will have great difficulty transitioning from smokestack growth to intellectual innovation and service wealth. ...continued... > carlisle-www.army.mil I suppose China might just undergo such a cultural revolution. In which case, anything goes. Thanks Energplay, that's a good link [because I agree with it]. edit... though I disagree with this <Unique China will need even longer to make the next great leap forward from industrial to informational economy--we have at least half a century's advantage. > The idea of people being 50 years or even a century behind is silly. Each child born is only 20 years away from being up with the best of anyone anywhere. All they need is the boot off their neck, the covers off their eyes and their minds turned loose. In a single generation, a country can go from zero to hero. Look at Singapore, Hong Kong, South Korea, Taiwan as development champions. Mqurice

To: RealMuLan who wrote (50410)	5/25/2004 2:20:56 AM
From: Maurice Winn	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

Ooops, China tells New Zealand's Peter Dunne, an MP, not to go to Taiwan. Looks as though China needs to be told to get a life. Meanwhile, the Yanks arrested a New Zealander in Iraq and kept him prisoner, incommunicado, for 3 months. He has now been released after some government contact from New Zealand when the family found out by their own means as to his whereabouts. I don't think the USA will be mentioning human rights to China any time soon. They'll be laughed out of town by Hu and co. Mqurice