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To: Jacob Snyder who wrote (134313)5/24/2004 11:55:46 PM
From: Sarmad Y. Hermiz  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
Jacob, the speech was just empty slogans. It may impress some people for a day or two. Unfortunately the killings in Iraq will continue. Actually, they'll continue with or without US occupation. Though wedding massacres will likely not occur after the US leaves. But plenty of other killings will go on for years until a new dictator consolidates power.

Quite likely, even after the US troops leaves, if a strong central government emerges, the US will continue funding terrorists in Iraq to make difficulties for the central government.

The US agenda, which is Israel's agenda is that Iraq becomes either

1- friendly to Israel,

or

2- too fragmented and pre-occupied to help Palestinians in any way.

The removal of Saddam Hussein is just the first step. The long-term neutralizing of Iraq as an Arab country will go on with covert funds to whoever is willing to be a terrorist for dollars and weaken an independent Iraqi government. As the US did in Afghanistan, to weaken the pro-Soviet government that preceded the Taliban. That fire will continue burning for a long time.

Sarmad



To: Jacob Snyder who wrote (134313)5/25/2004 1:12:44 AM
From: toddy  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
hi Jacob:

maybe you could help me in finding an answer on
why is tony blair getting out of this ?

for years the question been dogging me.
it is too late now for blair to back out.
and i assume his support garner UK a few contracts
to rebuild Iraq. or maybe some financial benefits
to cherie blair ( just pure speculation )

during the initial preparation for invasion,
tony blair provided the intellectual heft,
credibility, prestige and experience to the argument
of imminent danger from WMD.
he was and still now taking great risk to his political
career in doin so.

with the UK political system, blair can lose the confidence
of his Labor party and be booted out of his prime ministership any time ala margaret thatcher.
i like the way the parliament debate issues in the bowel
of the house. ;o)

the question still is, what is tony blair getting
out of his support ?

thank you
toddy
;o)

ps; if you have TV running Bush speech, not looking
at it but listening, your impression would be someone
running for president of Iraq, no ?



To: Jacob Snyder who wrote (134313)5/25/2004 1:53:20 AM
From: stockman_scott  Respond to of 281500
 
Rumsfeld's Long List of Failures

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