To: Rock_nj who wrote (6768 ) 6/1/2004 6:02:34 AM From: GUSTAVE JAEGER Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 20039 There is some truth that the U.S. has been engaged in some sort of World War 3 with the Middle Eastern muslim world for the past decade or so. Starting with the first Gulf War, and the occupation of Iraq being the culmination of this effort. But, I doubt that it has some sort of overarching oil conotation or motivation as you suggest, despite some people's efforts to package it that way. It has more to do with religious fanaticism, maintaining Israel's hegemony over the Holy Land, and ensuring that the U.S. media-military complex is running at full tilt and gets all the ascendance it wants. The U.S. wouldn't give a rat's ass about the muslim world if they didn't claim Jerusalem. Yes, it does boil down to religion. Nations have been made out of the Bible trade, and there are powerful ideological interests that seek to control and protect that lucrative trade. Judeo-Protestantism is the lifeblood of the U.S. polity, and has been for centuries. It has been American policy for centuries to control the Bible trade as best we can. In years past that meant sponsoring coups and other covert measures against the Communist heathendom. Now, with the "Evil Empire" gone, we're more willing to use our military against the "Green Peril". If it were just a war for oil, then the U.S. would be occupying West African countries that also could supply the US with billions of barrels a year. But, we don't, in fact, we don't give a rat's ass about West African oil. There's a bloody civil war raging in Nigeria, one of the largest wars since WW2 and we harldy ever hear about it in western media, and certainly aren't getting ourselves involved. As for Asia, we certainly have stirred it up in muslim countries like Indonesia, if anything we've often screwed them in one way or another. So, I don't really buy your take that it's some oil conspiracy that's being directed by greedy oilmen. Like most things in life, it all comes down to ideas. Oil is a powerful incentive, but ideology is vastly more powerful (*). An examination of U.S. military intervention over the past century certainly points towards an ideological motivation, rather than a mere economic one. I disagree with LP55, the U.S. has probably been more militarily involved in the Middle East over the past fifty years than any other region in the world, and they're for the most part Muslim idol-worshippers [to quote Lt-Gen Boykin] unlike the U.S. Chosen Freaks... All in all, it's the need to keep Jerusalem within our sphere of influence, so we can enforce our Judeo-Protestant dominion both at home and abroad.... (*) Message 17494452