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To: unclewest who wrote (135314)	6/2/2004 8:50:53 AM
From: epicure	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

I am NOT trying to evaluate Tillman's life- I don't evaluate lives- I evaluate facts. People worship many Gods who allegedly evaluate lives, I'm not in that business. If you, for example, were involved in a car crash, that killed you, I wouldn't think studying that crash would have deep meaning about your personal life, or evaluate you holistically, and somehow make you known for your death, and cause everyone to ignore your life. If you think examining the facts of a death mean that Tillman will be "known for his death"- I think you're being really illogical. Tillman is what he is- looking in to a tragic incident of friendly fire does not make him less of a man, or hero. My USMC dad is dead. But he would never agree with you (especially not about personal insults, since he was an amazingly polite guy). He would have wanted every death looked in to, if there was a possibility of drawing a lesson from it. My father was anti-war- and he would have hated the Iraq war just as much as he hated Vietnam. He would have been very sad about all the loss of life, on both sides, including Mr. Tillman's death, and he would never have thought that examining an incident was the wrong course of action. You say "freedom is personal"- apropos of what, I wonder? As some defense for getting personal and insulting posters in your posts? I really don't see any logic in that. Freedom might be personal, and then again it might not be- it might simply be an outgrowth of a certain type of social contract (in which case freedom is social, and not personal at all), and of course it's not absolute freedom we have, it's a very tailored kind of freedom. Absolute freedom you only come close to in anarchistic situations, imo, and even then, you don't have have it really (imo) It's funny, in a way, that you reached an understanding alone, that you would presume stretches to both of us. It's also funny that you would think your insults make me uncomfortable, they don't, but I do find them pointless, and thread bloat, of a rather corrosive type. I've tried the strategy you are embarking on- but after a while, I realized that personal insults prove nothing ( except, of course, proving that the insulter is willing to stoop to them), and ad hominems are simply illogical, especially when one is trying to insult people one doesn't even know. Oh you might have a lucky hit or two, but why would you want one? I don't see the point in them, not in this argument, and not in any argument,