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Politics : Don't Blame Me, I Voted For Kerry -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: bob who wrote (27651)	6/2/2004 10:45:22 AM
From: ChinuSFO	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 81568

I hope you would reread Jake's post to me and compare it to AS post. My friend, there is no defence for anyone who question's the loyalty of fellow citizen's. Saying that a person born here is superiror or in any way different by virtue of that fact is something I will never tolerate. I thank those who agree with me and support the values that this country holds dear, the only nation on Earth which can lay a claim to equality and assimilation of world citizens into something which worls like magic to keep this country in the forefront at all times.

To: bob who wrote (27651)	6/2/2004 11:46:28 AM
From: American Spirit	Respond to of 81568

Talk about Trash, listen to Rush and Coulter: Rush "speaks for America" Radio host Rush Limbaugh had his own take on Al Gore's invective against the Bush administration last Wednesday. "I guess those naked pyramids are just not in the national interest to Algore. [sic] [Laughing and laughing.] Okay. Well, you know, here's the thing, folks. Algore, this whole speech, he went nuts. He's flailing around wildly there ... I mean, it says a lot about Gore. It says he's perverse ... I don't think anything of this kind has ever been done by a former vice president during a war, but our adversaries and our enemies would be badly mistaken if they actually believe that Gore speaks for this nation, because he doesn't. I speak for more of this nation than Algore does, and I will say it on this program." Indeed, Limbaugh's speaking for "this nation" included comparing the stacking of "naked pyramids" of Iraqi prisoners by U.S. soldiers inside Abu Ghraib prison to a college fraternity prank, and calling such abusive tactics "pretty thoughtful" and "a brilliant maneuver." His troubling comments regarding the U.S. military's torture problem in Iraq date back to the beginning of May. However, in a short interview for the June 7 issue of Time magazine, Limbaugh has started to backpedal from some of those comments. "I was totally misinterpreted and taken out of context," he complains. "In a three-hour show, I would wager that two hours and 58 minutes were spent discussing the aspects of those photos that repulsed everybody, including me. The point I made was that this is not worth demeaning our entire war effort. And I think that these photos have been used as a political opportunity here by opponents and enemies of the President to discount the entire war in Iraq." Limbaugh does not elaborate as to what was misconstrued about his statements that the abuses at Abu Ghraib were "no different than what happens at the Skull and Bones initiation" or "anything you'd see Madonna or Britney Spears do on stage." Meanwhile, in what surely must be the most absurd triangulation on the right to date, syndicated columnist Ann Coulter went on the air last week to defend Limbaugh -- against Bill O'Reilly. Among her various lines of reasoning, Coulter tried to convince the ratings-savvy Fox News anchor that Limbaugh never made the comments at all. "O'REILLY: Now are you buying into the -- this is just a hazing thing at Abu Ghraib? "COULTER: What, the media is hazing the American people by seeing how much we can take? "O'REILLY: Some of the right-wing commentators say it's just hazing, what's the big deal? Are you buying into that? "COULTER: No, I don't think anyone is. "O'REILLY: No, they are. You know that. I'm not going to embarrass people but on the radio, talk radio, you have right-wing commentators say it's just hazing, what's the big deal? "COULTER: If I know what you're referring to, there were two hours and 59 minutes not saying that and at one point making fun of liberals for making fun of -- if you're talking about Rush, but Rush went on... "O'REILLY: ...program and he said it's not a big deal, it's just hazing. "COULTER: If you're talking about Rush, he definitely didn't say that. What other talk-radio hosts say... "O'REILLY: I compete against him every day on the radio and I know what he says. He said many, many times and not only him that it wasn't a big deal. "COULTER: No, he didn't say that, but whatever -- no." Still, O'Reilly and Coulter were able to find some common ground regarding the media's handling of the issue, as well as their own participation in the business. "O'REILLY: What's your point of view on it? "COULTER: I think that -- it was a bad thing, it's six malefactors in an army that is 1.4 million strong and if I hear about it again I'm going to leap out of my skin. This is the media trying to demoralize America. This is the new Tet Offensive. "O'REILLY: I agree with you. I think it's been overreported. But you aren't diminishing the horror of the situation? "COULTER: Of course not. But no one is, so what are they debating about? ... It's outrageous that the media will not shut up about this. "O'REILLY: Kill the music. I got one more for Ann, here. You realize that some people don't listen to you because they think you're an extremist. You realize that? "COULTER: Not according to my book sales, but go ahead. "O'REILLY: You sell to a niche. You do. "COULTER: A pretty big niche. "O'REILLY: Well, answer my question. Here's my question. Wouldn't it behoove you -- to be heard by more people if you weren't as strident? "COULTER: I don't think I am strident. I think I speak the truth and people are attracted to that, and judging by my book sales versus those who are less strident, I think I'm doing pretty well." * COULTER SPEAKS "THE TRUTH"? ROTFL!