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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: DuckTapeSunroof who wrote (580296)	6/3/2004 12:08:43 AM
From: Srexley	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

"(Maybe you have a fondness for the 'good ole days' of slavery and no voting for women or non-landowners and yellow fever though....)" This kind of statement just makes you look like an idiot. Are you not reading his posts, or are you reading them and just being a pissant on purpose? " I'll bet I'm older then you are, old bird!" Not nearly as smart, though.

To: DuckTapeSunroof who wrote (580296)	6/3/2004 2:19:48 AM
From: Red Heeler	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

Jizzle Pizzle wrote: "modern America, the land of . . . . sodomites . . . ." I thought Sodom was the land of Sodomites. How modern can it be? CC

To: DuckTapeSunroof who wrote (580296)	6/6/2004 10:25:31 PM
From: Johannes Pilch	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

You keep SIDE-STEPPIN', JOHANNES! Nope. I offered a point about America and then you sidestepped it to introduce the issue of my opinions on other countries, countries that are not my concern here because, unlike America, they never embraced the philosophy that is responsible for creating the America that I love, which philosophy has now become all but completely abandoned by modern America. [Just trying to determine if you just thought that AMERICA was 'sick'... or the ENTIRE WORLD was 'sick'.] Well, I have no problem giving my opinion here, except that the issue is irrelevant to my point. I do not wish to leave my point, apparently as you wish me to do. You ignored the question yet again! It is irrelevant. I didn't ask you if you thought them 'old times' were better! Whether you asked or not is completely irrelevant because the 'old times' was (somewhat) the point I have been making here and that I wish to make further. Metaphorically, I am talking about the days when wheat grew well in the land due to our unique farming processes, hard work and discipline. Moreover, I am pointing out that we have left those harder, but more effective methods behind for easier, less-effective modern methods while the former methods are responsible for the storehouse of wheat from which we currently eat today. I am also pointing out that while our modern methods help us work fewer hours, they are producing increasingly poisonous grains and inferior yields such that we are heaping disease upon ourselves and failing to add grain to the storehouse. That storehouse, made possible by the old methods, is now almost depleted. In the next few generations, you are going to be forced to rely upon grain stores that will not exist. You are already beginning to starve and die of disease. The signs of starvation and suffering are everywhere, even in your own homes, but you are persisting in relying upon increasingly ineffective modern methods of food production. You persist here because these inferior methods are now all you know. You have forgotten the old, harder, but much more effective way. I am saying that the signs of starvation you now see will become gradually more ubiquitous and intense, that you will all eventually starve in earnest and that even those who vaguely remember the old way will be unable to employ it before starving to death. Now instead of addressing this issue, namely, my claim regarding America’s rapidly dwindling wheat supply and inferior wheat farming methods, you instead began demanding that I give an opinion on whether America has more wheat stored up than other countries. I will not address your question further because it is clearly numbskullian. (Maybe you have a fondness for the 'good ole days' of slavery and no voting for women or non-landowners and yellow fever though....) That the old wheat farming method was ineffective at producing grains in some of the rockier areas of the farm is no reason to abandon the method altogether, especially since it worked quite well in most areas. Since you used the present tense, 'America is sick', I asked you about the present day world. You keep side-stepping the simple question. The question is that of a skull that is numb. I asked if your complaint of 'immorality' extended to the entire world, and not merely America, and you come up with this… ‘The world is not my concern.’ Gee, Johannes, I wonder what planet you live on, since you claim to not be concerned about this one?????? The point was that I am not concerned about the rest of the world on this issue because it never practiced the superior farming method that America once practiced and has now abandoned. P-L-E-A-S-E!!!!!!!! I'll bet I'm older then you are, old bird! Such nostalgia for things you never experienced. I have experienced them. Unlike increasing numbers of Americans, I have a private storehouse full of wheat that was passed to me by my parents. Since receiving it I have added greatly to it by the old methods and am now passing it and the old ways to each of my children. The problem is, you are increasingly trespassing the farm to destroy its produce and the means by which it was created.