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To: American Spirit who wrote (8370)	6/2/2004 7:11:32 PM
From: MrLucky	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 90947

so you obviously voted for Mr. Thrift - Davis?

To: American Spirit who wrote (8370)	6/2/2004 7:40:25 PM
From: Lazarus_Long	Respond to of 90947

ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

To: American Spirit who wrote (8370)	6/2/2004 7:48:54 PM
From: miraje	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 90947

Arnold should have listened to Buffett then California wouldn't be hock now for 15 billion. CA is a perfect place for you, Suzie Q. The inmates are running the asylum and you're obviously right at home... reviewjournal.com Golden State Democrats just keep piling on the rules and regulations Just keep it up, California Democrats. The Nevada economy thanks you for it. "As Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger crusades to make California more business friendly," The Associated Press reported Monday, "Democrat lawmakers passed an array of bills last week that would impose a variety of fees and higher costs on businesses operating in the Golden State." The list of legislative meddling is mind-boggling in its expansiveness. There's an increase in the minimum wage; a measure to allow workers to sue employers for not protecting them against harassment from customers; a bill allowing employees to sue their bosses for myriad other offenses; new fees on chemical manufacturers; mandates for global warming labels on new cars sold; and a restriction on the state doing business with companies that outsource jobs. And we haven't even mentioned the ban on teenagers using tanning salons. All this will have a deleterious effect on the Golden State's business climate, of course. Yet Democrats blissfully whistle past the graveyard, dismissing any such concerns as the overwrought rhetoric of evil big business. "Those corporate citizens continuing to cry foul should examine their checkbooks," said Art Torres, chairman of California's Democratic Party, "and see how much they're saving at the expense of the average man and woman out there." Sure, Art, sure. Just remember that if it weren't for all the illegals streaming across the southern border, California would have actually experienced a decline in population recently. And at least a portion of those fleeing are business owners trying to get out from under the state's onerous tax and regulatory burden. Nevada is only too happy to welcome them and the entrepreneurial spirit California Democrats so disdain. Unfortunately for the Silver State, many of the above initiatives are unlikely to become law, given the new occupant of the governor's mansion in Sacramento. `Should those bills complete the legislative process and come to the governor's desk, he'll have an opportunity to speak at that time," said a spokesman for Gov. Schwarzenegger. "But no one should doubt the governor's commitment to improving the state's business climate and increasing employment for Californians." Which is in stark contrast to legislative Democrats, who seem intent on increasing employment opportunities for ... Nevadans and Oregonians and Arizonans ...

To: American Spirit who wrote (8370)	6/3/2004 1:08:18 AM
From: DavesM	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 90947

Once again, you are wrong. The truth is, California has a progressive income tax structure. The reason that California has a huge deficit, is rich people in California suffered losses, and therefore had lower tax obligations - than before the 2000 market crash. California saw decreases of roughly $10 billion in revenue - from decreased taxes based on capital gains. This in large part is due to the collapse in gains from exercising stock options and capital gains from stock sales (and a $10 billion increase in State spending). - At least according to State of California in September 2002 (when Gray Davis was Governor). lao.ca.gov re:"Arnold should have listened to Bufffet then California wouldn't be hock now for 15 billion. Instead, we could gradually balance our budget by making people like Arnold himself pay a little more property taxes. Arnold's way, the middleclass pay for most everything."