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Politics : Should God be replaced? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Solon who wrote (17609)	6/4/2004 12:59:03 PM
From: Greg or e	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 28931

The use of the word "Ought" in the context of our discussion clearly implies an ethical obligation. You are saying there is no ethical obligation to treat others well, only that the world would be nicer if we all took your suggestions. While I'm sure that the world would be better if, as Kant suggested; "we pretend that God exists" there is simply no rational justification for doing so. If pragmatism is the ultimate arbiter of actions then Holocausts are just as valid as handouts. In fact from a strictly logical standpoint, three men in a boat with only enough food for one of them, would dictate that the strongest one throw the other two over board. Or perhaps the two weaker men could band together and throw the strong one over and then fight it out between themselves. They might even wait until one died and then eat him, but all of these options are simply that, options that have no ethical value unless you cue the violins and sneak emotion in the back door. "the "biblical position" is PRECISELY that non-believers ARE less deserving. And "deserving" relates to value and moral worth." It's clear that you don't know what you are talking about when it comes to the "biblical position". All people are deserving. They all deserve to justice. Believers have received mercy and grace in spite of their failure to do what they knew they "ought" to have done and their blatant disregard of that knowledge in committing various acts that are objectively wrong. "Then you will not mind telling me why 1,000,000 blue coats have the innate knowledge to kill 1,000,000 grey coats in the service of good and vice versa!" Where do you get this stuff? I never said they had any such knowledge. I have said people know murder is wrong. "I'm not hitting you that hard." Yor not hitting me at all. That was a swing and a miss! SWING BATTER BATTER BATTER! SWING