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Politics : America Under Siege: The End of Innocence -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: DeplorableIrredeemableRedneck who wrote (24812)6/6/2004 2:29:53 PM
From: Richnorth  Respond to of 27748
 
Thanks a million for re-posting my "outrageous" posts!!!
(with, of course, the obvious aid and/or connivance of that American ass-kissing, suck-holing and boot-licking forlorn sheepfarmer-cum-superarchivist).

After these few years, in case you still don't get it, folks are beginning to understand that Uncle Sam's hands are not entirely "clean" in the matter regarding 9/11.

That you would still cling on and/or swallow with gusto the shit, that Uncle Sam has doled out and is continuing to dole out, only goes to show what naive and half-baked nincompoops you and like-minded fellas are! Except for sick and demented fellas like you, no one has taken me to task for the truths I have been presenting over the years. Even some of those who disagreed with me have changed their minds!

Message 20162648

If you had the proper education and are able to parse my words, you would have noticed I wrote a lot of sense and truths. Truth, by its very nature, always hurts! Understand that and you will stop displaying your prejudice and making an fool of yourself.



To: DeplorableIrredeemableRedneck who wrote (24812)6/6/2004 2:54:35 PM
From: Richnorth  Respond to of 27748
 
Did you realize that a couple of my posts, that you you re-posted to show what an anti-American guy I am, are actually quite "supportive" of me and tried to explain why things had happened they way they did?

If you did not realize that, you don't or can't read well enough, eh? I suppose you re-posted them all like an automaton, without looking closely at them. I suppose you did not understand what you read? Like I said earlier, stop making an asshole of yourself!



To: DeplorableIrredeemableRedneck who wrote (24812)6/6/2004 3:16:30 PM
From: Richnorth  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 27748
 
Darren,

I hope that, for once, you can understand what you read.

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D(isinformation)-Day -
60 Years Is Enough

By Mickey Z.

rense.com

June 6, 2004 marks 60 years since the fabled Allied invasion known as "D-Day." Lost amid the self-congratulatory orgy is the minor detail that by the time of the D-Day invasion, the Soviets were engaging 80 percent of the German Army on the Eastern Front. Oops

Alexander Cockburn has called D-Day a "sideshow," explaining that WWII had already been won "by the Russians at Stalingrad and then, a year before D-Day, at the Kursk Salient, where 100 German divisions were mangled. Compared with those epic struggles, D-Day was a skirmish ... Hitler's generals knew the war was lost, and the task was to keep the meeting point between the invading Russians and Western armies as far east as possible."

Of course, this doesn't fit the "good war" myth (more than just a good war, NBC newsman Tom Brokaw has deemed WWII "the greatest war the world has seen."), so it's down the memory hole.

To borrow from the World Bank protestors, I say 60 years is enough.

Faced with a perpetual war against evil and presidential election pitting one Yale war criminal against another, the time has never been better to challenge the "greatest generation" hype. The next time someone you know speaks of WWII in hallowed tones, remind them that:

* The U.S. fought that war against racism with a segregated army.

* It fought that war to end atrocities by participating in the shooting of surrendering soldiers, the starvation of POWs, the deliberate bombing of civilians, wiping out hospitals, strafing lifeboats, and in the Pacific boiling flesh off enemy skulls to make table ornaments for sweethearts.

* FDR, the leader of this anti-racist, anti-atrocity force, signed Executive Order 9066, interning over 100,000 Japanese-Americans without due process ... thus, in the name of taking on the architects of German prison camps became the architect of American prison camps.

* Before, during, and after the Good War, the American business class traded with the enemy. Among the U.S. corporations that invested in the Nazis were Ford, GE, Standard Oil, Texaco, ITT, IBM, and GM (top man William Knudsen called Nazi Germany "the miracle of the 20th century").

* While the U.S. regularly turned away Jewish refugees to face certain death in Europe, another group of refugees was welcomed with open arms after the war: fleeing Nazi war criminals who were used to help create the CIA and advance America's nuclear program.

The enduring Good War fable goes well beyond Memorial Day barbecues and flickering black-and-white movies on late night TV. WWII is America's most popular war. According to accepted history, it was an inevitable war forced upon a peaceful people thanks to a surprise attack by a sneaky enemy. This war, then and now, has been carefully and consciously sold to us as a life-and-death battle against pure evil. For most Americans, WWII was nothing less than good and bad going toe-to-toe in khaki fatigues.

But, Hollywood aside, John Wayne never set foot on Iwo Jima. Despite the former president's dim recollections, Ronald Reagan did not liberate any concentration camps. And, contrary to popular belief, FDR never actually got around to sending our boys "over there" to take on Hitler's Germany until after the Nazis had already declared war on the U.S. first.

American lives weren't sacrificed in a holy war to avenge Pearl Harbor nor to end the Nazi Holocaust. WWII was about territory, power, control, money, and imperialism. What we're taught about the years leading up to the Good War involves the alleged appeasement of the Third Reich. If only the Allies were stronger in their resolve, the fascists could have been stopped. Having made that mistake once, the mantra goes, we can't make it again.

Comparing modern-day tyrants like Saddam Hussein to Adolf Hitler and invoking the A Word (appeasement) activates the following historical façade: After whipping the original axis of evil in a noble and popular war, the U.S. and its allies can now wave the banner of humanitarianism and intervene with impunity across the globe without their motivations being severely questioned ... especially when every enemy is likened to Hitler.

But it wasn't appeasement that took place prior to WWII. It was, at best, indifference; at worst it was collaboration ... based on economic greed and more than a little shared ideology.

U.S. investment in Germany accelerated by more than 48% between 1929 and 1940, while declining sharply everywhere else in Europe. For many U.S. companies, operations in Germany continued during the war (even if it meant the use of concentration-camp slave labor) with overt U.S. government support. For example, American pilots were given instructions not to hit factories in Germany that were owned by U.S. firms. As a result, German civilians began using the Ford plant in Cologne as an air raid shelter.

The pursuit of profit long ago transcended national borders and loyalty. Doing business with Hitler's Germany or Mussolini's Italy proved no more unsavory to the captains of industry than, say, selling military hardware to Indonesia does today. What's a little repression when there's money to be made?

This is where the most relevant similarities between Hussein and Hitler exist. Despite committing atrocities, both murderers received overt and covert support from the U.S ... in the name of profit and capitalism. Make no mistake: The U.S., with its stockpile of lethal weapons and no shortage of bipartisan leaders dying to use them, has never been in the business of appeasement.

When President (sic) Bush says, "You are either with us or against us," he's merely selling old wine in a new bottle.

The first step toward smashing that bottle is to "just say no" to the myth. The 20th century has been called the century of genocide, but it was also a century of propaganda (partially to justify the genocide). Little has changed in the way foreign interventions are aggressively packaged and sold to a wary public ... except the technology by which the lies are disseminated.

More than 100 years ago, anarchist Emma Goldman described the national mood at the beginning of the Spanish-American War: "America had declared war with Spain. The news was not unexpected. For several months preceding, press and pulpit were filled with the call to arms in defense of the victims of Spanish atrocities in Cuba. It did not require much political wisdom to see that America's concern was a matter of sugar and had nothing to do with humanitarian feelings. Of course there were plenty of credulous people, not only in the country at large, but even in the liberal ranks, who believed in America's claim."

If the working class is kept unaware of what is being done in their name, rebellion is unlikely. If the average citizen in inundated with images designed to demonstrate that the U.S. government has always acted in a benevolent manner, rebellion appears unnecessary. As a result, justification is crucial for those in power.

Films like Steven Spielberg's Saving Private Ryan are popular attempts at such justification. Even if war is hell and the good guys sometimes lose their way, these vehicles teach us that there is still no reason to question either the morality of the mission or the stature of that particular generation.

Tom Brokaw's best seller informs those who came of age during the era of Reagan and Rambo that those who came of age during the Depression and WWII were indeed "the greatest generation any society has ever produced."

Thanks to the seductive power of myth, millionaire celebrities like Brokaw, Spielberg, Tom Hanks, and others gain further wealth and prestige by playing the role of corporate/military propagandist to an audience deceived and pacified by jingoistic hysteria and the solace it often provides.

Nazi propagandist Joseph Goebbels said, "It is not enough to reconcile people more or less to our regime, to move them towards a position of neutrality towards us, we want rather to work on people until they are addicted to us."

Thus, it is our moral obligation to see through our own propaganda and kick the addictive habit of lazy thinking. We must address the many uncomfortable truths about WWII by recognizing on the public relations and media propaganda used by Western corporate states to transform a conflict between capitalist nations into a holy crusade.

In 1941, revolutionary pacifist A.J. Muste declared, "The problem after war is with the victor. He thinks he has just proved that war and violence pay. Who will now teach him a lesson?" Precisely how and when such a lesson will be taught is not known, but it can be safely assumed that this lesson will never be learned from a standard college textbook, an insipid bestseller, or a manipulative box office smash. The past 60 years have also shown that without such a lesson, there will be many more wars and many more lies told to obscure the truth about them.

Ending this cycle begins with each of us deciding we will no longer buy what's being sold. Debunk the "Good War" myth and the tenets behind the "War on Terror" will crumble. As Bob Marley sang, "Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery; none but ourselves can free our minds."

Mickey Z. is the author of four books. For more information, please visit: www.mickeyz.net.



To: DeplorableIrredeemableRedneck who wrote (24812)6/27/2004 12:23:47 PM
From: Richnorth  Respond to of 27748
 
Here is yet another one from ritchie though not written by him.

When Jean Chretien, the previous Prime Minister of Canada said that the US had brought the 9/11 attacks on themselves, some wiseguys said he was a fool. Boy! Are they ever correct!

US COMPLICITY IN 9-11 ATTACKS WIDELY ACCEPTED AT G68 SUMMIT IN CANADA

. Ruppert/Chossudovsky Draw Crowd of 1 ,200
. U. of Ottawa Professor Says Evidence Shows U.S. Helped Plan Attacks
. Ruppert Kicked Out of Canada -- But He Was Leaving Anyway

(taken from a past issue at fromthewilderness.com)

June 27, 2002, 16:00 PDT (FTW) -- An estimated crowd of 1,200 turned out on June 25 at the University of Calgary's MacEwan Hall to hear FTW Publisher Mike Ruppert and University of Ottawa Professor Michel Chossudovsky present evidence of and a rationale for U.S. government complicity in last September's terrorist attacks. (See photos at www.fromthewilderness .com). Their two-and-a-half-hour presentation, including documentary evidence, was greeted with a standing ovation.

In a question and answer session after the lecture, not one audience member questioned that the Bush Administration needed the attacks in order to mobilize public support for a war to control Central Asian oil reserves and the cash from the Afghan opium trade. Traditionally, Afghanistan has been the world's largest producer of opium.

The G6B -- standing for a global population of six billion people whose interests need to be balanced against the corporate interests of the industrialized world -- was a three-day event sponsored by, among others, the government of Canada, Amnesty International and the University of Calgary. It brought delegates and activists together from 60 countries. The counter summit was timed and located in Calgary, Alberta so as to juxtapose it with the G8 meeting in nearby Kananaskis of the world's eight largest industrialized nations starting on June 26.

The first joint presentation involving Ruppert and Chossudovsky, an economics professor, presented the strongest evidence to date that not only did the Bush Administration have complete foreknowledge of the attacks and allow them to happen, but also that the CIA had a direct hand in financing the attacks. Chossudovsky presented documentary evidence from ABC news, citing FBI sources, confirming a report that Gen. Mahmud Ahmad, then-chief of the Pakistani intelligence service (ISI), ordered for $100,000 to be wired to lead hijacker Mohammed Atta just weeks before the attacks. The new corroboration from U.S.
media, using FBI sources, gave considerable weight to earlier press stories originating in India linking the ISI to 9-11. [These new revelations will be the subject of an upcoming story in FTW].

"Gen. Ahmad arrived in Washington on Sept. 4 and met with, among others, his good friend [CIA Director] George Tenet, [Deputy Secretary of State] Richard Armitage, [Sen.] Joe Biden, [D-Del.,] and the heads of the two intelligence committees," Chossudovsky said.

"To me the issue of foreknowledge is a red herring. Osama bin Laden is and remains to this day a CIA asset. Even now his AI Qaeda operatives are working with the Kosovo Liberation Army who are U.S. allies and with U.S.-backed forces in Macedonia. Members of AI Qaeda have been protected as they moved into Kashmir where they are now fomenting conflict between India and Pakistan.

"The evidence is becoming clearer every day that the U.S. government helped to plan and fund the Sept. 11 attacks," said Chossudovsky.

In addition, Chossudovsky has uncovered what may be complicity on the part of the major media in hiding the smoking gun. Using transcripts from the Federal Records Service (FRS), Chossudovsky obtained the transcript of a question posed to National Security Adviser Condoleeza Rica at a May 16 press conference, in which she was asked if she had met with the "ISI chief' while he was in Washington. The CNN transcript of the event indicated that the words "ISI chief' were "inaudible" when, in fact, they were quite audible to the FRS. Rice's response was a troubled, "I have not seen that report, and he was certainly not meeting with me."

Chossudovsky painted a broad picture of globalization pushing events toward a possible nuclear exchange between India and Pakistan by noting that one U.S. company with strong intelligence and military connections, MPRI of Vienna, Va., was acting as adviser to both governments. He also noted the strong links between CIA Director George Tenet and Deputy Secretary of State Armitage to the leaders of both countries. Chossudovsky also pointed out that President George W. Bush receives daily "personal" intelligence briefings from the CIA director n a custom that has never previously been followed by any sitting president. Previously most CIA briefings have been delivered in written format.

Ruppert, using new evidence of U.S. government foreknowledge disclosed by major media sources and through recent press conferences, established that by using only open source material, the U.S. government had warnings that multiple airliners, most likely from United and American airlines would be hijacked during the week of Sept. 9 and crashed into the twin towers. Using revelations of intelligence intercepts and a Pentagon drill responding to an attack from a hijacked airliner staged prior to Sept. 11, Ruppert established that the Bush Administration's position, which held it had no hint that aircraft would be used as weapons, was false. Pointing to last year's G8 summit in Genoa, Italy, Ruppert noted that extensive precautions had been taken there (including anti-aircraft guns) to prevent just such an attack. A Los Angeles Times story disclosed that

President Bush was the target of the suspected attacks in Genoa.
"Bush ought to be having some interesting conversations with the leaders of Italy, Germany, France and Russia since it was their intelligence services who forwarded detailed advance warnings to the CIA throughout the summer of 2001," said Ruppert. "And they referred specifically to suicide attacks with airliners." Ruppert also debunked the notions that the 9-11 attacks were caused by a lack of cooperation between agencies, and that great numbers of people would have had to be involved in the U.S. end of the operation. Citing a BBC TV report by Gregg Palast which showed an FBI report stating that the Bush Administration had ordered the FBI to curtail investigations into bin Laden relatives, Ruppert demonstrated that orders were coming from levels above FBI and CIA leadership. Additionally, referring to the recent memorandum from FBI Special Agent Colleen Rowley and a press conference given by FBI Special Agent Robert Wright, Ruppert popped the government's position that somehow the so-called intelligence "failures" of 9-11 were the result of negligence.

"If you look at the text of Rowley's message and listen to what Wright said at his press conference, you hear and see words like, 'obstruct,' 'deliberately thwart,' 'intimidate,' 'block,' 'harass,' 'dishonest,' 'rewrite,' 'omit,' 'undermine,' 'suppress,' 'punish,' 'retaliate' and 'prevent.' These are not words describing negligence. These are words describing deliberate and willful actions.

"And if you note from both the Rowley memo and apparently from the Wright press conference, it was only one supervisory special agent at FBI headquarters who did all of the deliberate work to stop investigations that could have prevented the attacks. And what did Rowley tell us? Right after Sept. 11 the agent who had blocked the investigations was promoted!"

The $64,000 question remains unanswered: Was the agent in Rowley's case also involved in blocking Wright's Chicagobased investigations into money-laundering for terrorist groups, including AI Qaeda? In any event, the Rowley memorandum proves that just a few officials in key positions could have carried out the 9-11 conspiracy successfully.

LEAVING ANYWAY BUT KICKED OUT JUST THE SAME -- A CLOSE ENCOUNTER WITH AIR FORCE ONE

On entering Canada Ruppert was questioned first by Canadian Customs officials and then by immigration officers. Upon learning that Ruppert was a journalist and publisher of FTW the immigration officer typed Ruppert's name into a computer and asked specifically if he was going near the G8 conference. Ruppert stated that he was only planning on attending the G6B conference and had plans to return to Los Angeles on June 25. Nonetheless, the immigration officer stamped Ruppert's passport with a visa dated to expire on June 26, requiring that he not be in the country when the conference began. This highly unusual practice was offensive to many Canadians who pointed out that there are no visa requirements between the two countries.

After the lecture, as he was hurrying to the airport, Ruppert was questioned by the local press who photographed his passport as evidence of the Canadian government's desire to censor coverage and public access to the conference.

Ruppert's departure coincided with the arrival of President Bush and two identical 747 aircraft painted with Air Force One markings. He was able to photograph the arrival of the president and a heavy deployment of support and security aircraft. Ruppert's flight home was delayed by more than an hour. He returned safely to Los Angeles while his suitcase was forced to spend the night in San Francisco. The Calgary lecture was Ruppert's eighth stop in a month in his "Truth and Lies of 9-11" lecture series. He plans to spend the next six weeks working on new stories.

- Photographs of the lecture, Ruppert's passport and the arrival of George W. Bush are online at www.fromthewilderne ss.com - Michael Chossudovsky's website is at www.globairesearch.ca

--FTW staff
fromthewilderness.com



To: DeplorableIrredeemableRedneck who wrote (24812)6/27/2004 12:26:50 PM
From: Richnorth  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 27748
 
fromthewilderness.com