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To: Lou Weed who wrote (135717)	6/5/2004 3:28:38 AM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

My God!!!!!.....would you think that was funny if Rachel was your sister/daughter/mother/cousin/aunt/any person with enough conviction to die for what they believe in????? You can say the same of the suicide bombers themselves. Are you so sensitive about them too?

To: Lou Weed who wrote (135717)	6/5/2004 12:50:08 PM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Oh, surely Rachel did not intend to die for her beliefs, she intended for the bulldozer to stop. If a relative of mine flung themselves in front of a bulldozer, hoping it would stop, I would think she was a moron. If she strapped explosives around her waist and blew up a pizza parlor, I'd be so ashamed I'd probably never appear in public again. You would be proud, no doubt. BTW, it did not work, the house was demolished anyway.

To: Lou Weed who wrote (135717)	6/6/2004 4:04:53 PM
From: Maurice Winn	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 281500

Regarding Rachel Corrie jokes and the ape-like nature of the lust for dominance: <Inside America's Animal House Masked and Anonymous By CHRIS FLOYD Every now and then the mask slips, and we see the true face of the system that marshals the world. For an instant, the heavy paint of sober wisdom and moral purpose falls away, and there, suddenly, with jolting clarity, is the snarling rictus of an ape.> counterpunch.org CB's pancake joke shows her ape-like nature. Osama wrote poetry about flying pieces of people for a wedding [in regard to the Cole attack], so I believe anyway. The USA struts and preens about high moral purpose and other drivel, while torturing and killing and usurping human rights with the best of them. counterpunch.org <They are a new category of rightless persons. They are trapped in a kind of nightmare tautology: Q: Why are we being held here without rights? A: Because you are "illegal combatants" (="terrorists"). Q: On the basis of what evidence, and through what legal procedure, was it determined that we are "illegal combatants"? A: In your case, such evidence and procedure is unnecessary. Q: Why are they unnecessary? A: Because you are "illegal combatants" > The apes are fighting in the cage, but unfortunately, there are no bars between me and them. More chimp than cherub: bushorchimp.com I might even be one of them judging from my prehensile fingers and hairy gibbon-like arms. Mqurice