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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (135840)	6/7/2004 12:23:32 AM
From: Dr. Id	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Because she was cheering, supporting, and protecting people who express their political gripes by blowing up families at bus stops and pizzerias, that's why And you don't think that our bombs blow up families at bus stops and pizzerias? Do you condemn those Americans who cheer and support our country's bombing of innocents (or as you like to say "collateral damage")? I am not a supporter of the Palestinians by any means (though I empathize with their cause). However, your rigid "good vs evil" thinking is what keeps conflicts like this raging. There is a great scene in the classic film The Battle of Algiers in which a resistance leader (a terrorist to the French, a freedom fighter to the Algerians) is asked how he can justify planting a bomb in a cafe full of innocent civilians. He replies (and I'm paraphrasing...) that if they had planes, they would drop their bombs from the air and would never plant any more bombs. There will be a point (probably after a regime change in Israel) where a reasonable leader will take a longer look and try to understand the bigger picture. Only then, after providing a reasonable compromise (and this will probably be after Arafat is also removed), there may be some semblance of peace in the region. Until then, the bloodshed will continue.

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (135840)	6/7/2004 1:46:23 AM
From: Maurice Winn	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

<Because she was cheering, supporting, and protecting people who express their political gripes by blowing up families at bus stops and pizzerias, that's why. > Are you sure of that Nadine or are all Palestinians the same, just as all Jews are the same? I had a brief read of her In Memoriam site and she seemed reasonable enough, if a bit Californian-naive. I doubt that she'd have been cheering on blowing up families or protecting those who did it. You might even be indulging in a spot of libel if she wasn't dead. If Israel was bulldozing a suicide bomber's family's house, she obviously wasn't protecting him because he's dead! If the family was proud of what he did, then I understand that she was protecting those who support genocidal suicide bombing of civilians. Collective punishment is what the Nazis did in Warsaw = 100 people murdered for each soldier killed. Counted off, one, two, three according to an old lady who was there. Mqurice