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To: Hawkmoon who wrote (135858)	6/7/2004 12:26:50 AM
From: Dr. Id	Respond to of 281500

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To: Hawkmoon who wrote (135858)	6/7/2004 12:15:31 PM
From: Dr. Id	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

And as for the military having to "beg for every dollar"? Doesn't something like 50 cents on every tax dollar go to defense? How much more do they need? (Maybe they can redirect funds that are lining the pockets of the defense contractors) What are you, a doctor of disinformation and propaganda? A simple web search would tell you how the Federal Budget is spent: warresisters.org dolf.com dolf.com; From one source: The Center for Defense Information (CDI) notes that the FY 2004 federal budget includes "$782 billion for discretionary spending (the money the President and Congress must decide and act to spend each year), $399 billion of which will go to the Pentagon." Put another way, CDI observes, spending for "national defense" now comprises more than half (51 percent) of all discretionary spending in the current US budget. And from another: warresisters.org Why Do the Percentages Vary from Group to Group? The U.S. Government says that military spending amounts to 18% of the budget, the Center for Defense Information (CDI) reports 51%, the Friends Committee on National Legislation (FCNL) reports 40\2%, and the War Resisters League claims 49%. Why the variation? Different groups have different purposes in how they present the budget figures. WRL’s goal has been to show the percentage of money that goes to the military (current and past) so that people paying — or not paying — their federal taxes would know what portion of their payments are military-oriented. Also, some of the numbers are for different fiscal years. There are at least five different factors to consider when analyzing the U.S. budget: discretionary spending vs. total spending budget authority vs. outlays function vs. agency/department federal funds vs. unified budget time period Discretionary Spending. CDI uses "discretionary" spending — budget items that Congress is allowed to tinker with — which excludes so-called "mandatory" spending items (such as interest on the national debt and retirement pay). WRL does not make such distinctions and lumps them together. Consequently, CDI figures do not include "past" military spending. Past Military Spending. If the government does not have enough money to finance a war (or spending for its hefty military budgets), they borrow through loans, savings bonds, and so forth. This borrowing (done heavily during World War II and the Vietnam War) comes back in later years as "hidden" military spending through interest payments on the national debt. How much of the debt is considered “military” varies from group. As mentioned above, WRL uses 80% whereas FCNL uses 50%. Consequently, FCNL reports that 42% of the FY2003 budget is military (28% current military and 14% past military). WRL's figures are 49% of the FY2005 budget (28% current, 3% Iraq & Afghanistan supplemental, and 18% past). Outlays vs. Budget Authority. WRL uses "outlays" rather than "budget authority," which is often preferred by the government, news media, and groups such as CDI. Outlays refer to spending done in a particular fiscal year, whereas budget authority refers to new spending authorized over a period of several future years. Consequently, CDI reports $421 billion in FY2005 budget authority for the military and $2,200 billion "over the next five years." While WRL reports outlays of $536 billion, plus $50 billion in supplemental spending for Iraq and Afghanistan wars, plus $349 billion in past military spending — totaling $935 billion — just for FY2005. Because of this recent increase in "budget authority," WRL's calculations of the military percentages should rise even more dramatically in future years as the new spending kicks in. Function vs. Agency/Department. Not all military spending is done by the Department of Defense. For example, the Department of Energy budget is responsible for nuclear weapons. Consequently, calculations of military spending should consider the function of the budget item regardless of the department or agency in charge of it. However, not everyone agrees what constitutes a military function. For example, WRL includes the 60% of Homeland Security (which includes the Coast Guard), and half of NASA in military spending, while other groups do not. Federal Funds vs. Unified Budget. WRL uses "federal funds" rather than the "unified budget" figures that the government prefers. Federal funds exclude trust fund money (e.g., social security), which is raised separately (e.g., the FICA and Medicare deductions in paychecks) and is specifically ear-marked for particular programs. By combining trust funds with federal funds, the percentage of spending on the military appears smaller, a deceptive practice first used by the government in the late 1960s as the Vietnam War became more and more unpopular. What period are we talking about? Finally, there is some variation in figures because different fiscal years are used. WRL’s figures (above) are for FY2005 (Oct. 1, 2004 to Sep. 30, 2005) as are the most recent U.S. government figures. FCNL uses FY2003 and CDI uses FY2005 but their 51% at the top of this box is from FY2001.