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To: tejek who wrote (190000)	6/8/2004 4:37:30 PM
From: TimF	Respond to of 1575046

Why don't you stop with the premature accusations I should not have said "you would". A better phrase would have been "...you could just change your defense to say "well they don't use suicide bombers under 9 years old..." The point was not to bash you for some imagined future action. The point that your specifying kids under 12 was rather arbitrary. You said "I see.......now kids under 12 are suicide bombers.", when I said no such thing. The statement you made was that according to Palestinian figures "According to the PRCS, since 2000, 506 Palestinian children under the age of 18 have been killed. Of that number, 124 were under the age of 12.". To that you added "the numbers don't support your supposition." I replied - " They do if many of those under 18 are combatants and some of those under 12 are used as shields by hiding among them, shooting from behind them ect. The Palestinian death totals include children killing themselves to kill Israelis, children killed by Israeli fire when the Palestinians set up a situation where the children will be caught in the crossfire, children attacking armed soldiers and getting killed, children killed by Palestinian bullets in crossfires, Palestinians killed as collaborators, ect." Rather then replying to the point that was raised you said "I see.......now kids under 12 are suicide bombers. To what lengths will you go to make the Palestinians wrong?!" I ask you where in the statement quoted above does it say or even imply that kids under 12 are suicide bombers. You didn't make a reply to what I posted, you pretended I posted something else and used that as a pretext for gratuitously and inaccurately bashing me. Getting back to the original point the numbers that you throw out say nothing about the circumstances of the deaths. I suppose you could say the numbers don't support my supposition but they also don't make an effective argument against it. So then.....you blame the Palestinians almost entirely for all the killing even when they are not the perpetrators. No I blame the Palestinians because they are the perpetrators. When a Palestinian terrorist brainwashes a 14 year old boy in to becoming a suicide bomber, the terrorist is the perp. When a terrorist attacks an Israeli soldier but hits a Palestinian teen instead the terrorist is the perp if anyone is. When the terrorist shoots at the soldier from within or behind a crowd of civilians, the terrorist is putting the civilians at risk. Those are the situations I was talking about. Tim