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To: The Duke of URL© who wrote (3461)6/9/2004 9:44:21 AM
From: Kirk ©  Respond to of 4345
 
What if we asked her to work for a pay check and ended options completely like most of the regular engineers "suffer" with at HP?

How many dollars going to offset option dilution could then be paid as a dividend to us shareholders? I betcha if those dollars went to dividends, we'd not see a P/E discount that she complains of in this story.

Feisty Fiorina Reiterates Growth Outlook, Takes on Rivals

By K.C. Swanson
TheStreet.com Staff Reporter
6/8/2004 6:56 PM EDT

URL: thestreet.com

Updated from 6:21 p.m. EDT

During an analyst meeting Tuesday, Hewlett-Packard (HPQ:NYSE) CEO Carly Fiorina reiterated expectations the company can grow earnings 20% or more for fiscal 2004 and the next couple of years. She also took a few handy swipes at rivals IBM and Dell.

Fiorina said H-P will create $7 billion in internal growth by the end of fiscal 2004. "In essence, we created an organic growth company the size of EMC," she bragged in a presentation at H-P's headquarters in San Jose, Calif., that was simultaneously broadcast over the Internet.

H-P shares rose 34 cents, or 1.6%, to $22 Tuesday; after hours, the stock was recently down 2 cents at $21.98.

Despite the more bullish tone from executives at IBM and Dell over the past few months, Fiorina also repeated her earlier prediction that corporate information technology spending will rise only about 2% this year.

"Customers want to simplify and consolidate their IT infrastructure before growing their spend [ing] ," she said. "But we still have an opportunity to take share."

Although H-P is No. 1 or 2 in most of the markets it serves, Fiorina suggested the company has ample opportunity to garner a greater percentage of its customers' IT spending. In fiscal 2003, existing customers spent $710 billion on products and services H-P offers, she said; during that year, H-P had revenue of $73.06 billion.

The company also has "huge opportunities" in new markets like digital media; Fiorina estimated that is about a $400 billion market.

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During a question-and-answer session with analysts, Fiorina had the unenviable job of trying to explain why H-P's price-to-earnings multiple has continued to lag that of its peers.
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H-P has garnered a reputation for what Wall Street calls "inconsistent execution" -- in other words, missing consensus sales and earnings expectations -- but the company has made its numbers three quarters in a row.

So, "what's keeping H-P's shares stuck at their current level?" one analyst asked.

Based on Tuesday's close, the stock has risen a mere 3.7% from its closing price on June 9, 2003, compared wth a 12.2% rise for Dell and 10.6% increase for IBM.

"If people will look at the facts, they certainly argue for a higher multiple" for H-P, answered a peeved-sounding Fiorina. "Markets sometimes miss the facts."

She said H-P's broad product portfolio, which includes consumer-oriented computers, handheld gadgets and printers as well as industrial-strength servers, will help it go after markets that IBM can't. "IBM can't go after health care or entertainment opportunities like H-P, because they're a back-office company," she said.

Unlike IBM, Fiorina noted that H-P has chosen not to focus on what she said are relatively "slow-growing" areas like middleware, databases and mainframes.

An IBM representative could not be reached for comment.

Meanwhile, she said Dell's business model, which she described as "distributing the products of others," offers limited opportunities for earnings leverage. "They're driving on unit growth, but their average unit price is falling," she said. "You've seen that in the past couple of quarters."

Dell has consistently posted strong earnings growth, said Dell spokesman Mike Maher. In fiscal year 2004, Dell's EPS was up 26% on 17% revenue growth, and analysts expect EPS to rise another 23% in fiscal 2005, according to Thomson First Call.

In the most recent quarter, Dell's average revenue per PC stood at $1570, down $50 from year-ago levels. But Dell normally sees unit prices decline as technology advances drive down costs, Maher added. "One of the greater measures to look at in terms of company health is market share and profitability. I don't think you could question either of those with Dell," he said.

During the same meeting, Vyomesh Joshi, who heads H-P's printer division, directly addressed investor worries that Dell's push into the business will crimp profits at H-P. He pointed out that H-P has shipped 312 million printers to date, while Dell's installed base is only 2.8 million. While H-P is shipping about 1 million printers a week, Dell is shipping only about 60,000.

The vast majority of printing profits come from supplies like ink and toner, meaning H-P's large installed base continues to give it a major advantage.

However, Dell spokesperson Maher countered that while Dell doesn't yet break out the financials of its year-old printer division, the business already boasts higher operating margins than H-P's PC business
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Joshi added that Dell seems to be taking share from its partner Lexmark (LXK:NYSE) , not from H-P. "They have limited functionality; they have no [intellectual property] . They're a distribution company," he said of Dell.

He also noted that Dell doesn't offer color laser jets or photo printer; by comparison, H-P has made much of the profit potential in color printers as consumers increasingly opt to print out digital photos.

Maher said Dell is continuing to fill out its product line.



To: The Duke of URL© who wrote (3461)6/9/2004 8:13:58 PM
From: Kirk ©  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 4345
 
I hate to see this for a stock I own, but someone on my site just posted an article by Jon Markman who named Carly as one of the three worst CEOs...
suite101.com

Hewlett-Packard's Carly Fiorina

It’s fashionable these days to suggest that Hewlett-Packard (HPQ) CEO Carly Fiorina is a genius for improving results slightly in the past couple of quarters, but let’s be frank: She’s not. Not even close. Under her egotistical direction, a company that was once a paradigm of Silicon Valley entrepreneurship has simply failed to make any progress at enhancing shareholder value. It is now trading at the same value as it did in 1995. Almost 10 years of marking time.

Fiorina’s reign at Hewlett -- combined with that of the CEO just before her -- makes a great case study of exactly what not to do. They took a company that was fantastic at doing one thing (printers), and made it a company that is increasingly marginalized at that one thing, and truly lousy at everything else. Her stubborn, ill-conceived purchase of fading, unprofitable computer giant Compaq has utterly failed to deliver on its promise of making shareholders richer with a soup-to-nuts strategy. The printer business still brings in the majority of the earnings of the entire entity.

And yet because Fiorina decided to pick a fight with Dell (DELL, news, msgs) in the personal computer business, Dell has turned the tables and made a strategic decision to return the favor. Dell has steadily released a very nice suite of new low-cost devices made by a variety of partners and, to make matters worse, it has slashed prices on ink -- the most profitable part of the printer trade. “If Hewlett is not profitable in personal computers, and it’s not profitable in mainframe computers, and it’s not profitable in services, and their printer business is being hollowed out by Dell, then what’s left?” asks Bret Rekas, a hedge fund manager in Minneapolis. “I’ll answer that: nothing.”

Here’s a stat for you: In 1995, Hewlett-Packard posted $38 billion in sales and earned $2.5 billon. In 2003, it posted $73 billion in sales and earned the same $2.5 billion. That’s not progress. That’s running harder to stay in the same place. Hewlett’s new focus on digital imaging is great. It would probably do the company a world of good for Fiorina to do the math on one of her flagship financial calculators and admit her mistake with Compaq. She should sell off or just write down the purchase, and return the company to its roots as a smaller, duller but more profitable and innovative designer of digital imaging solutions.


my own stats:

$800M paid to the top technical contributors to get them to back the merger.

$16M paid to Capellis to pretend it was a great deal

Without those two "payments".....

And option dilution expense that could have gone to dividends rather than paying executives for piss poor stock performance.

Who knows... perhaps the stock will really start to do well now that some of us who've owned it for decades are bitching.