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Politics : Should God be replaced? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Greg or e who wrote (17705)	6/9/2004 1:01:55 PM
From: Solon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 28931

"You would make an excellent Pope. No doubt you would allow the lesser "ignorants" on this thread to kiss your ring." No, pretending to talk to God is more in your line. But leave my ring alone. You are doing a good job of kissing what you are kissing.

To: Greg or e who wrote (17705)	6/9/2004 1:38:46 PM
From: 2MAR$	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 28931

Even if self preservation is the "first Law" it's a huge leap of logic to move from that, to self sacrifice. And yet you believe in one of the many savior/hero/godman cults (Christianity/Jesus) that had been patterned after and in wide circulation in the ancient world , which had already been imprinted upon many minds in many lands throughout empires. From Prometheus to Mithra , from Isis/Osirus to Hercules and Apollo's son who raised folks from the dead . Next you would have us believe that the genesis story in the Bible was the only genesis story floating around in the world ? Maybe you should read a few more books there . Ofcourse to you the most plausible explanation would be to promote and elevate an evil entity, which himself was an offshoot of the "Divine" , you call --->Satan ...which is in itself quite a revelation of a childlike mind seeking bugabooos in a quite splendidly laid out universe and world. But Satan was ever a crafty one , being a "Son of God " himself though fallen as he was. And so Satan was the one who introduced all these exact duplicate savior/godmen before Jesus to confuse the faithful yet to be ? In otherwords , all the heroic sacrifices of all the Gods and Godmen imagined before Jesus , were the creation of this one and only Satan who new this would harm and confuse the believers yet to be ? Yes , Satan was ever the crafty one ....the wonderful master hobgoblin of idle minds . So clever of him to invent all those ancient belief systems of the pagans , so many centuries earlier to thwart the birthright and mission of your Jewish messiah who wandered to and from some 15miles back and forth in the north of the Galilean sea. Satan was certainly one of those great "Christian" inventions ...and was so "original". regards

To: Greg or e who wrote (17705)	6/9/2004 1:40:55 PM
From: 2MAR$	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 28931

"The devil, whose business is to pervert the truth, mimics the exact circumstances of the Divine Sacraments...Thus he celebrates the oblation of bread, and brings in the symbol of the resurrection. Let us therefore acknowledge the craftiness of the devil, who copies certain things of those that be Divine." Tertullian, late 2nd century CE, commenting on the many similarities between Mithraism and Christianity. "He who will not eat of my body and drink of my blood, so that he will be made on with me and I with him, the same shall not know salvation." An inscription to Mithras which parallels John 6:53-54 What profit has not that fable of Christ brought us!" Pope Leo X.

To: Greg or e who wrote (17705)	6/9/2004 2:09:57 PM
From: 2MAR$	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 28931

Even if self preservation is the "first Law" it's a huge leap of logic to move from that, to self sacrifice. And you believe in the physical~bodily resurrection of Jesus ? Seems that there are all kinds of leaps of faith that could be promoted here . Do you sometimes ever wonder , that maybe ...just maybe you are quite confused about other realities and impossiblities of this Universe as well? Perhaps need just a little refresher course in what is possible and what is not ? Men do sacrifice themselves on fields of battle everyday , they even blow themselves up or get their daughters & sons to do so to preserve and promote the faith and preserve the Holy Lands , national borders, ways of life ...but they do not ascend physically to heaven ...nor , do I think did Jesus . One of the weakest links of all is the physical resurrection , for so much of the spiritual/psychological truth perhaps , is missed in emphasizing it . But to demand this belief as the cornerstone of the Church , from the very beginning as with Peter drawing his sword , the message and the metaphor was always misread and misunderstood. But like Islam , Christianity is a religion of peace ....yet then again I see 1000's of university students from all over the world studying astronomy , philosophy , history, physics , law & architecture and also do so in relative peace too, and do also learn to have moral compasses and are introduced to ethics as they began to do a long , long time ago...even before "Jesus".