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To: LindyBill who wrote (49722)6/10/2004 1:17:13 AM
From: frankw1900  Respond to of 793647
 
I use "class" as it is used in England and Europe.


So do I.

Class is what you do, in the US, Canada, and in Europe.

Nothing like that here

HooHaw!

And sometimes, if you've bad luck, like Prince Charles or a Rockefeller, it's what you inherit of what your ancestors did.

You are perhaps confusing titles with class. The Brits never throw anything away. You achieve, you get a medal and some letters after your name. You achieve greatly, and you get a title.

Members of left over nobility have the same pressure, they have to achieve, and it's been that way for a long time. The non achievers meet the same kind of end as the unsuccessful scions of the American rich.

Winston Churchill worked like a demon, went to desperate, reckless measures, and a great deal of self promotion, in an attempt to achieve the kind of glory his ancestor, Duke of Marlborough, did. He managed it - he saved the Kingdom. Tragically, many of his contemporaries of similar nature were wiped out in WW1.

Dubya is not a naked, self revealing type like Churchill, but it's notable this "child of privilege" is following his family's path of public service. He didn't go the good ol boy barfly route.

I find people achieve based on inner drive.

In Europe and here. All the same.

I have become more "nature" than "nuture" as to its source.

Compared to some European countries the less socialist political scene here allows for slightly more freedom and ease of entry but that has damnnall to do with "class" there as you envision it. So yes, "nurture" does have something to do with it....