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To: elmatador who wrote (50864)6/10/2004 6:03:06 AM
From: energyplay  Respond to of 74559
 
This is what happend to california - progressive taxes, add in dot com stock market profits...the profits go away, the 10 th guy doesn't show up.

I printed out a California estimated quqarterly tax form.

Max tax rate is about 9.3%.

The tax form has NINE spaces to the left of the decimal point- (meaning up to 999 million USD) - I guess they wanted to make sure that Mel Gibson, Larry Flison , and Arnold could fit their payments in the boxes.

I stared at this and felt very poor.



To: elmatador who wrote (50864)6/10/2004 8:29:22 AM
From: TobagoJack  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 74559
 
yup, the 10th guy did capital flight and opted out of the rotten system
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To: elmatador who wrote (50864)6/10/2004 10:31:27 AM
From: AC Flyer  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 74559
 
Now that was a great post, elmat!

Would you be surprised to know that in the US, the tax structure is even more unfair (to the wealthy) than in Denmark?

In 2001, the top 10% of US taxpayers (i.e. the 10th guy at the table in your story) paid 64.9% of the government lunch check.
taxfoundation.org

Also, the bottom 29.5% pay zero taxes and many of them actually get paid to eat by Uncle Sam.
taxfoundation.org



To: elmatador who wrote (50864)6/10/2004 4:41:53 PM
From: Night Trader  Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 74559
 
The analogy is superficially convincing but an economy is more complicated than a meal. It would be more apt if the diners received different sized meals according to their wealth. Should not a person who owns a disproportionate share of a society’s assets be expected to contribute more to that society’s expenses? The expense of defense and law enforcement for example is largely about protecting property rights. A wealthier person has a larger stake in the maintenance of that society.

Personally though I’d like to see all income and corporate taxes scrapped in favor of a much more efficient national tax on consumption, not just on goods as it is now but also services such as travel, housing etc.

The above two paragraphs aren’t contradictory: anyone who doesn’t consume their assets personally is really just managing them as an institution would.