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To: Ilaine who wrote (136371)	6/12/2004 10:32:27 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Respond to of 281500

You say it was falling apart. I see no evidence of that Remember when Colin Powell went to the UN in summer 2001, trying to get 'smart sanctions' through to shore up the sanctions? He got his head handed to him. Now we know bad the oil-for-food scam was working, you still think sanctiosn were working. Remember, containment was not just about what Saddam had in his locker at the moment - it was about what he had the freedom to go and purchase - and most of all, what he was likely to do with it. US has a "major climbdown"? If you don't think we've lost worse in the prestige area, we'll agree to disagree Oh, we definitely disagree. We are not well loved at the moment by the Arab regimes, for sure. But suddenly, for the first time in 50 years, they are talking about democratic reforms. Hm, how did that happen just now? If democratic reforms actually do happen in Iraq, it will make many people think and wonder about their own governments in the Arab world - and crack the wall of lies that the Arabs cocoon themselves in. You mean reform in Baghdad/Cairo/Damascus does not depend on settling the Israeli/Pal conflict after all? There is a difference between being liked and being respected. In diplomacy, respect doesn't happen without credible threat of force backing the diplomats - and I do believe our credibility in that department is much higher now than it was in 2000. I don't expect to hear happy noises about it, however. I don't belive "the jooooos run the world" but I do believe that everybody pushes their own interests Have you noticed that the same organizations, with little difference, are suicide bombing the Israelis and Westerners in SA and Iraqis in Baghdad? You may think that the Israeli/Pal struggle is quite separate from US interests, but as soldiers say, "the enemy gets a vote". Muslim Brotherhood (parent org of Hamas) now conjoined with Al Qaeda say they are fighting the "Jews and the Crusaders". Guess who that is.