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To: Jamey who wrote (37681)	6/12/2004 2:06:27 PM
From: rrufff	Respond to of 39621

That is so untrue. I have no ill will to you in the abstract. I only posted to you and to Emile because of all the hate-filled posts, denigrating an entire group of people because of an interpretation of ancient commentaries, or by other blood libels. I have on many occasions asked Emile to distance himself from his past. If he no longer believes that "there are too many blacks in city hall," then let him say so and I will no longer post that. I agree that to err is human and that we all must acknowledge our mistakes if we must go on. I have also posted on many occasions simple questions to Emile about Hitler and asked him whether he agreed or disagreed with Hitler's "final solution," whether Hitler had gone far enough, etc. It would be quite easy to shut me up. All he would have to do is say that Hitler was wrong, that Jews should not have been murdered in the millions, particularly that the religious "justification" was clearly the wrong use of religion. Instead, Emile and his followers continue to post hateful sterotypical diatribes, based on bigoted assumptions or ancient commentaries, the former being totally disproven and the latter being irrelevant to the modern world. As Haqi says - if there were no hate-filled posts, there would be no reason to comment that they are hate-filled posts. OTOH - it is every right thinking person's job to root out bigotry and prejudice and, as a Christian, I would think you would agree with this.

To: Jamey who wrote (37681)	6/12/2004 4:22:47 PM
From: haqihana	Respond to of 39621

James, I have worked all 12 steps of the AA program, and in most cases, adhere to them, but when one steps too harshly on my toes, I react like any normal human being would. I am, definitely sober, but am still a human being with thoughts, opinions, and a protection system, just like anyone else. When you get stung, you sting back. Are you trying to prevent me from doing the same thins? If so fugetaboutit. If you will read my post again, I did not mention what you problem, from the past, was. I did not break the wall of silence of AA, but now you have. Since you don't really know the circumstances of my divorce, you are not qualified to come to any conclusions as to the cause, and effect, of the event. My oldest Son died because of an illness he contacted years before I returned to Houston. He and I were on good terms, though not the best. My younger Son, and I, are now best friends. What happened, had to happen for the sake of all concerned. If you listen only to her side, your reactions would be biased, and apparently are. The past is gone forever, and there is nothing we can do about it. I did what I had to do, or it is quite possible I would be dead by now. Since I left that situation, I have not suffered the bleeding ulcers that almost killed me 6 different times, in 2 years. Would you have endangered your life by staying in such a situation? Only a fool would do that. I bear no malice toward anyone, and am content to just go on with my own life with the only woman that has ever loved me, because of the person I am, and not what I have to offer in material ways. I am not the only one that has called names. Look in the mirror. The world is a tit for tat location.