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To: zone_boundry who wrote (46461)6/12/2004 6:05:17 PM
From: Skywatcher  Respond to of 50167
 
He's single handedly destroyed the education system here in California...what do you know about my state....come on out and hang with the HUGE population of homeless that were created by him.....
Head on over to IRAN and check out the missiles he traded them for HOLDING OUR HOSTAGES THROUGH THE ELECTIONS....
Check out the beginnings of this TORTURE IS JUST FINE WITH THE POWERS OF THE US in the Contra torturers that all graduated from our illustrious college of war and torture....
and the MANY MANY! indictments and resignations of his elite criminal cabinet during those years....
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To: zone_boundry who wrote (46461)6/12/2004 6:12:09 PM
From: Skywatcher  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 50167
 
In Central America, Reagan Remains A Polarizing Figure
By Kevin Sullivan and Mary Jordan
Washington Post

Thursday 10 June 2004

San Salvador - Gerson Martinez, a rebel leader in the 1980s, remembers Ronald Reagan as the man who funneled $1 million a day to a repressive and often brutal Salvadoran government whose thugs and death squads killed thousands of people, including the mother of his two children. Ricardo Valdivieso, a businessman and a founder of El Salvador's main conservative political party, said Reagan "saved Central America" and was "a great ray of light and hope for civilization and liberty
in a dark hour for our country."

The memory of the 40th U.S. president, who served from 1981 to 1989, is still strong in the region, and the contrasting views are passionate and polarizing.

The United States was heavily involved in wars in Nicaragua, El Salvador and Guatemala in the 1980s in what Reagan described as an effort to stem Soviet influence in the hemisphere. The United States spent more than $4 billion on economic and military aid during El Salvador's civil war, in which more than 75,000 people were killed, many of them civilians caught in the crossfire.

The United States also organized Nicaragua's contra guerrillas, who fought that country's revolutionary Sandinista government. Reagan referred to contras as "the moral equivalent of the Founding Fathers" and the United States spent $1 billion on them; the fighting in Nicaragua killed as many as 50,000 people. Honduras was a staging ground for U.S. Nicaraguan operations.

Reagan also supported the repressive military dictatorship of Guatemala, where more than 200,000 people, mostly indigenous peasants, died over 36 years of civil strife.

Reagan's support never led to a final battlefield victory in the region. Opposing sides negotiated peace in El Salvador and the Sandinistas were voted out of office in Nicaragua. But the same divisive sentiment about Reagan that existed a generation ago persists today.

Admirers credit Reagan with changing the course of Central America and helping to nurture democratic governments and free-market systems across the region. Many said Reagan's advocacy of open markets and U.S.-style capitalism sowed the earliest seeds of El Salvador's adoption of the U.S.
dollar as its official currency.

"As time goes on, people are going to understand what he did for us," said Valdivieso, 62, a hotel owner and coffee producer. "I remember the first time I heard him speak, I thought, perhaps things will be all right, maybe we're going to be okay."

But for others, Reagan was an anti-communist zealot, whose obsession blinded him to the human rights abuses of those he supported with funding and CIA training.

"He was a butcher," said Miguel D'Escoto, who was foreign minister in Nicaragua's Sandinista government. D'Escoto, speaking by telephone from Managua, said "brutal intervention" by the United States under Reagan left "the whole country demoralized."


He said another Reagan legacy was that "Nicaragua continues to have people tied to U.S. apron strings. For some people, the lesson of the '80s is that you can do nothing without U.S. approval or you will have trouble."

Daniel Ortega, the Sandinista who led Nicaragua from 1979 to 1990, remains a leading political
figure there. He said at a public ceremony this week that he hoped God would forgive Reagan for his
"dirty war against Nicaragua."

But Adolfo Calero, a former contra leader who attended a special Mass for Reagan in the Managua
cathedral on Tuesday, heralded the U.S. president's legacy. "We are very grateful to President Reagan.
Without him, we probably would have been another Cuba," said Calero, former head of the Nicaraguan
Democratic Force, which battled the Sandinista government.

In Guatemala, many remember that Reagan lent his prestige and backing to Gen. Efrain Rios Montt,who came to power in a coup and was an ardent anti-communist. Currently under house arrest for his alleged role in violent July 2003 riots, Rios Montt has been blamed by many international human rights groups for the massacre of tens of thousands of Guatemalans, including many women and children.


Carolina Escobar Sarti, a Guatemalan newspaper columnist, said many view Reagan's
"interventionism" as part of a "difficult era."

"Of course," she said, "There are others, those on the ultra-right, who like Reagan," she said. "He
has become a symbol of the conservatives."

In Honduras, where the little-known capital Tegucigalpa burst into the world's consciousness in the
1980s as a staging area for the U.S-funded contras, the Reagan era is viewed bleakly by many.

"It was a black moment," said Guatama Fonseca, a former Honduran security minister. "Reagan is
remembered for events that are very unpleasant."

Reagan's critics contend that billions of U.S. dollars and U.S. arms and military intelligence inflamed
and prolonged the 1980s wars because of Reagan's determination to leave no trace of communist
sympathizers so close to U.S. soil.


In El Salvador, Martinez, the former rebel leader, said the U.S.-backed wars under Reagan created a
massive wave of refugees who fled to the United States. He called that migration, which created a huge
Salvadoran population in Washington, "the daughter of Reagan's policies."

He also said Central America's rampant street gangs were "the grandchildren" of Reagan's policies.
Many gang members are people who had fled the wars, learned gang culture in Los Angeles or New
York, then brought it home, creating the region's most critical security issue.

Buy...that's WARM AND FUZZY NOW ISN"T IT? Sounds more like the disaster of Bush's vendetta war everyday
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To: zone_boundry who wrote (46461)6/12/2004 9:32:25 PM
From: Skywatcher  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 50167
 
He Brought Back Black and White
by Derrick Z. Jackson


THE HEADLINES of The Boston Globe and Time magazine called Ronald Reagan an "All-American." Dan Rather led the CBS News by saying, "Ronald Reagan, the Cold War crusader whose sunny optimism made a nation believe it was morning in America, dies at 93." The New York Times wrote, "Mr. Reagan's relentless optimism projected the sun."

That is from the so-called liberal media. Liberal politicians also suffered sunstroke. Massachusetts Senator Ted Kennedy praised Reagan's "extraordinary ability to inspire the nation to live up to its high ideals." Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry said, "Even when he was breaking Democrats hearts, he did so with a smile and in the spirit of honest and open debate." Kerry added, "He was our oldest president, but he made America young again."

The praise proved one of the oldest of scientific lessons. If you stare too much into the sun, you go blind.

Calling Reagan an "all-American" insults the millions of Americans whom he deprived of his sunlight. Reagan far too often invited the nation to live down to its lowest common denominators. Reagan tried to make America younger, all right. He tried to return us to the days where we sat before black-and-white televisions, in separate black and white neighborhoods, where white people saw only white people and black people were represented by Buckwheat and the only time you saw lots of people of color were dead Indians in Westerns.

The Los Angeles Times said Reagan's "optimism was catching." Tell that to black folks, the poor, unions, people with AIDS, environmentalists, college students needing aid, Holocaust survivors, and pro-choice activists. They all caught hell. You could hardly call the Iran-Contra arms scandal an "honest and open debate."

"The Great Communicator" knew exactly where to project the sun for particular white people. His first major speech after receiving the nomination for president in 1980 was delivered at the Neshoba County Fair in Mississippi. Neshoba County was where civil rights workers James Chaney, Andrew Goodman, and Michael Schwerner were murdered in 1964. The county fair was legendary for segregationist speeches and Dixie ditties.

The fair was a more comfortable fit for Reagan than the mainstream press has ever admitted. On his way to California's governorship, he opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965. At the fair, Reagan declared, "I believe in states' rights." States' rights was the cry of Southern segregationists.

Reagan did not mention Chaney, Goodman, and Schwerner. He did effusively praise John Wayne, saying: "God rest his soul. I don't know whether John Wayne had this experience or not, but I wish he had, because I don't know of anyone who would have loved it more or been more at home here than the Duke would have been, right here."

Wayne would have been so at home at the fair because he, like Reagan, represented a "younger" America. In a 1971 Playboy interview, Wayne said: "We can't all of a sudden get down on our knees and turn everything over to the leadership of the blacks. I believe in white supremacy until the blacks are educated to a point of responsibility. I don't believe in giving authority and positions of leadership to irresponsible people." Wayne was also asked his opinion of Indians after wasting so many of them in the movies. He said: "I don't feel we did wrong in taking this great country from them, if that's what you're asking. Our so-called stealing of this country from them was just a matter of survival."

Morning in America became nightfall for civil rights. Once in office, Reagan accelerated the systematic erosion of affirmative action. He made William Rehnquist chief justice of the Supreme Court even though Rehnquist opposed integration in the 1960s. He chose an Interior secretary, James Watt, who bragged that he had appointed to an advisory group "a black . . . a woman, two Jews, and a cripple." Reagan wanted to cut the school lunch program, calling ketchup a vegetable, and spun lies about "welfare queens."

Reagan was silent for years on AIDS. He tried to get tax exemptions for racist Bob Jones University. He originally opposed the Martin Luther King holiday before signing it into law. He did veto an extension of the Civil Rights Act in 1988 and defanged the US Civil Rights Commission. He exchanged schools for the prison boom. Reagan's legacy is still alive. The senior President Bush vetoed a major civil rights bill in 1990 and vetoed an increase in the minimum wage. President Clinton slashed welfare. The junior President Bush campaigned at Bob Jones and sided with the white students who wanted to destroy affirmative action at the University of Michigan.

That is not an "All-American" legacy. Reagan projected the sun to mask a scowl. His presidency is indeed extraordinary. It is extraordinary for how easily Americans hail his "optimism." For African-Americans, and all Americans who were targets of his policies, it was open season.

© Copyright 2004 Globe Newspaper Company.

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