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To: Lane3 who wrote (50232)	6/14/2004 7:05:35 AM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793955

I'm posting this article in part because I was struck by the clipped, strictly-the-facts writing style and the odd last paragraph. washingtonpost.com Justice Dept. Memo Says Torture 'May Be Justified' By Dana Priest Washington Post Staff Writer Sunday, June 13, 2004; 6:30 PM Today washingtonpost.com is posting a copy of the Aug. 1, 2002, memorandum "Re: Standards of Conduct for Interrogation under 18 U.S.C. 2340-2340A," from the Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel for Alberto R. Gonzales, counsel to President Bush. The memo was the focus of a recent article in The Washington Post. The memo was written at the request of the CIA. The CIA wanted authority to conduct more aggressive interrogations than were permitted prior to the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. The interrogations were of suspected al Qaeda members whom the CIA had apprehended outside the United States. The CIA asked the White House for legal guidance. The White House asked the Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel for its legal opinion on the standards of conduct under the Convention Against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhumane and Degrading Treatment or Punishment. The Office of Legal Counsel is the federal government's ultimate legal adviser. The most significant and sensitive topics that the federal government considers are often given to the OLC for review. In this case, the memorandum was signed by Jay S. Bybee, the head of the office at the time. Bybee's signature gives the document additional authority, making it akin to a binding legal opinion on government policy on interrogations. Bybee has since become a judge on the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals. Another memorandum, dated March 6, 2003, from a Defense Department working group convened by Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld to come up with new interrogation guidelines for detainees at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, incorporated much, but not all, of the legal thinking from the OLC memo. The Wall Street Journal first published the March memo. At a recent Senate Judiciary Committee hearing, senators asked Attorney General John D. Ashcroft to release both memos. Ashcroft said he would not discuss the contents of the Justice and Pentagon memos or turn them over to the committees. A transcript of that hearing is also available. President Bush spoke on the issue of torture Thursday, saying he expected U.S. authorities to abide by the law. He declined to say whether he believes U.S. law prohibits torture. Here is a link to the White House transcript of the president's press conference, which included questions and answers on torture. The Post deleted several lines from the memo that are not germane to the legal arguments being made in it and that are the subject of further reporting by The Post. © 2004 The Washington Post Company

To: Lane3 who wrote (50232)	6/14/2004 2:01:01 PM
From: KLP	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793955

Maybe.l.. Clinton is a red herring... Maybe not. Somehow I was remembering the conversation here on religion (or not) with you and others.....I think that Ron Jr doesn't have the faith his father did, or even if he has any faith at all. This is what he said....and what made me think of GWB, Clinton, and Carter. Of the 3, Carter was the worst in that regard.....IMO, of course. (BTW, the yahoo link has already evaporated....) Ron Reagan Jr.'s Remarks at Burial Fri Jun 11,11:44 PM ET Add U.S. National - AP to My Yahoo! By The Associated Press ..........Dad was also a deeply, unabashedly religious man. But he never made the fatal mistake of so many politicians wearing his faith on his sleeve to gain political advantage. True, after he was shot and nearly killed early in his presidency, he came to believe that God had spared him in order that he might do good. But he accepted that as a responsibility, not a mandate. And there is a profound difference....... news.yahoo.com.