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To: Orcastraiter who wrote (9057)	6/16/2004 12:49:30 PM
From: Alan Smithee	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 90947

We have a long way to go. You manage to find negativity in everything, don't you? You kind of remind me of that Li'l Abner character, joe btfsplk lil-abner.com

To: Orcastraiter who wrote (9057)	6/16/2004 9:14:02 PM
From: DavesM	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 90947

You understand wrong. As a result, the conclusions you draw, are wrong too. If I had to guess, the Government does not consider manufacturing burgers" as a manufacturing job either. "What do the unemployment insurance figures measure?" "Statistics on insured unemployment in the United States are collected as a byproduct of unemployment insurance (UI) programs. Workers who lose their jobs and are covered by these programs typically file claims which serve as notice that they are beginning a period of unemployment. Claimants who qualify for benefits are counted in the insured unemployment figures. Some countries base their estimates of total unemployment on the number of persons filing claims for or receiving UI payments or the number of persons registered with government employment offices as available for work. These data are also available in the United States, but they are not used to measure total unemployment because they exclude several important groups. In terms of employed workers, the principal groups not covered are self-employed workers, unpaid family workers, workers in certain not-for-profit organizations, and several other, primarily seasonal, worker categories." - BLS re: "As I understand it, the reported unemployment rate is the number of new jobless claims. It reports the percentage of people applying for unemployment benefits. Once the benefits have been exhausted and people are no longer getting unemployment, they are no longer reported. I'm not so sure that a falling unemployment rate tells us a lot. Many folks have moved to working jobs below their skill level, or are working two "manufacturing jobs" at Burger King."